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A jetstream 32 flight crew started a descent late after relaying a clearance for ARTCC near the csg VOR.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 445037 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199908 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : csg.vortac |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1400 |
| ASRS Report | 445037 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Controller was working a single engine cessna with radio problems. I was PNF. First officer was flying. First officer keyed microphone to relay. I did not approve. I told first officer not to get involved. Let's fly our own plane. Controller then gave us a descent to 4000 ft. We put it in altitude alerter and both acknowledged it. ATC called and asked if we would relay to cessna with poor radios. I then relayed and he went back to uncontrolled field (I think). In the meanwhile, first officer forgot to descend. Controller had to prompt us to begin descent. Moral to the story: unless another aircraft is in emergency and ATC requests help, do not help! Fly your own airplane and let ATC do their job.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A JETSTREAM 32 FLC STARTED A DSCNT LATE AFTER RELAYING A CLRNC FOR ARTCC NEAR THE CSG VOR.
Narrative: CTLR WAS WORKING A SINGLE ENG CESSNA WITH RADIO PROBS. I WAS PNF. FO WAS FLYING. FO KEYED MIKE TO RELAY. I DID NOT APPROVE. I TOLD FO NOT TO GET INVOLVED. LET'S FLY OUR OWN PLANE. CTLR THEN GAVE US A DSCNT TO 4000 FT. WE PUT IT IN ALT ALERTER AND BOTH ACKNOWLEDGED IT. ATC CALLED AND ASKED IF WE WOULD RELAY TO CESSNA WITH POOR RADIOS. I THEN RELAYED AND HE WENT BACK TO UNCTLED FIELD (I THINK). IN THE MEANWHILE, FO FORGOT TO DSND. CTLR HAD TO PROMPT US TO BEGIN DSCNT. MORAL TO THE STORY: UNLESS ANOTHER ACFT IS IN EMER AND ATC REQUESTS HELP, DO NOT HELP! FLY YOUR OWN AIRPLANE AND LET ATC DO THEIR JOB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.