<< >> NASA ASRS Report 445034, August 1999

Sct controller concerned with sct supervisor comments about traffic spacing when controller performing duties.

Attributes
ACN	445034
Time
Date	199908
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sct.tracon
State Reference	AB
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Night
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar pilot : private
Experience	controller time certified in position1 : 2
ASRS Report	445034
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : supervisor
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other controllerb
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Airport
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

Traffic moderate to heavy. Tailwind from 8000 ft to 3000 ft, then headwind of 10 KTS. Traffic was landing with an average of 3/4 mi over prescribed minima. Area supervisor comes over and stated 'you're wasting space, you're gonna hafta tighten up when we're in holding.' this is in lax arrs at sct where we were landing 65-72 aircraft an hour. His actions created a hazardous, disruptive, and totally inappropriate working situation. A supervisor should never chastise a controller on position. It's even worse when you're busy, IFR conditions and working as best you can. For the 2 hours in question, we ran 66 and 65 aircraft to this airport which equates to 22 or 23 aircraft each runway. At 140 KTS average speed, we had approximately 4 3/4 to 5 mi in-trail separation with at least 50% of the arrs, B757's and hvys of all types.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SCT CTLR CONCERNED WITH SCT SUPVR COMMENTS ABOUT TFC SPACING WHEN CTLR PERFORMING DUTIES.

Narrative: TFC MODERATE TO HVY. TAILWIND FROM 8000 FT TO 3000 FT, THEN HEADWIND OF 10 KTS. TFC WAS LNDG WITH AN AVERAGE OF 3/4 MI OVER PRESCRIBED MINIMA. AREA SUPVR COMES OVER AND STATED 'YOU'RE WASTING SPACE, YOU'RE GONNA HAFTA TIGHTEN UP WHEN WE'RE IN HOLDING.' THIS IS IN LAX ARRS AT SCT WHERE WE WERE LNDG 65-72 ACFT AN HR. HIS ACTIONS CREATED A HAZARDOUS, DISRUPTIVE, AND TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE WORKING SIT. A SUPVR SHOULD NEVER CHASTISE A CTLR ON POS. IT'S EVEN WORSE WHEN YOU'RE BUSY, IFR CONDITIONS AND WORKING AS BEST YOU CAN. FOR THE 2 HRS IN QUESTION, WE RAN 66 AND 65 ACFT TO THIS ARPT WHICH EQUATES TO 22 OR 23 ACFT EACH RWY. AT 140 KTS AVERAGE SPD, WE HAD APPROX 4 3/4 TO 5 MI IN-TRAIL SEPARATION WITH AT LEAST 50% OF THE ARRS, B757'S AND HVYS OF ALL TYPES.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.