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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 444890 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199907 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Experimental |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 30 |
| ASRS Report | 444890 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I left detroit for oshkosh. First fuel stop was just south of chicago mode C veil. Talking to the manager, he told me there was an exemption for non-electrical/non-transponder, outside of class B airspace, over the water through meigs below 3000 ft. I ended flying 5 mi offshore because meigs was too busy on the radio. 2 days later, on the way home, I decided to use the same route. When I contacted chicago approach they assured me that there was no waiver for non-transponder.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A COMMERCIAL RATED PLT FLYING AN EXPERIMENTAL ACFT NEAR ORD FAILED TO MEET THE MODE C ALT RPTING EQUIP REQUIREMENTS.
Narrative: I LEFT DETROIT FOR OSHKOSH. FIRST FUEL STOP WAS JUST S OF CHICAGO MODE C VEIL. TALKING TO THE MGR, HE TOLD ME THERE WAS AN EXEMPTION FOR NON-ELECTRICAL/NON-XPONDER, OUTSIDE OF CLASS B AIRSPACE, OVER THE WATER THROUGH MEIGS BELOW 3000 FT. I ENDED FLYING 5 MI OFFSHORE BECAUSE MEIGS WAS TOO BUSY ON THE RADIO. 2 DAYS LATER, ON THE WAY HOME, I DECIDED TO USE THE SAME RTE. WHEN I CONTACTED CHICAGO APCH THEY ASSURED ME THAT THERE WAS NO WAIVER FOR NON-XPONDER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.