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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : bdr.airport|
|Altitude||agl single value : 0|
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 91|
|Flight Phase||ground : holding|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
instruction : instructor
|Qualification||pilot : cfi|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 100|
flight time total : 3500
flight time type : 800
|Function||instruction : trainee|
|Qualification||pilot : student|
|Anomaly||non adherence : clearance|
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Problem Areas||ATC Human Performance|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
|ATC Facility||staffing : bdr.tower|
Controller advised that he had given us 'position and hold' 3 times and we did not respond. Since we were expecting position and hold for departure between arrs, we were listening intently. I suspect controller used wrong frequency, used wrong call sign, or was stepped on. This type of incident at bdr tower is typical. The contract tower in this location needs to meet the staffing promised and to improve traffic movement. This reporter knows the importance of good, clear, and keep it short communications. When is the FAA going to recognize that there is a problem at this facility? Hopefully, before there is an accident. The tapes are being reviewed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TWR CTLR GIVES 'IN POS AND HOLD' INSTRUCTIONS 3 TIMES TO A PIPER PA28-161 WHICH WERE NOT HEARD BY THE INSTRUCTOR PLT. INSTRUCTOR PLT COMPLAINT OF CONTRACT TWR STAFFING.
Narrative: CTLR ADVISED THAT HE HAD GIVEN US 'POS AND HOLD' 3 TIMES AND WE DID NOT RESPOND. SINCE WE WERE EXPECTING POS AND HOLD FOR DEP BTWN ARRS, WE WERE LISTENING INTENTLY. I SUSPECT CTLR USED WRONG FREQ, USED WRONG CALL SIGN, OR WAS STEPPED ON. THIS TYPE OF INCIDENT AT BDR TWR IS TYPICAL. THE CONTRACT TWR IN THIS LOCATION NEEDS TO MEET THE STAFFING PROMISED AND TO IMPROVE TFC MOVEMENT. THIS RPTR KNOWS THE IMPORTANCE OF GOOD, CLR, AND KEEP IT SHORT COMS. WHEN IS THE FAA GOING TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A PROB AT THIS FACILITY? HOPEFULLY, BEFORE THERE IS AN ACCIDENT. THE TAPES ARE BEING REVIEWED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.