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Pilot flew without licenses in possession until caught on FAA ramp check. Temporaries were provided. FAA satisfied.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 438187 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199905 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : hao.airport |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : charter |
| Make Model Name | Falcon 20FJF/20C/20D/20E/20F |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : charter |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 181 flight time total : 13950 flight time type : 1678 |
| ASRS Report | 438187 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : charter |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other other : 3 |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Non scheduled (charter) freight operation in a FA20. We had flown 1 trip (3 legs). Crew consisted of myself, my first officer, and a third pilot, acting as jump seat observer, who also flew as first officer on far 91 (non revenue) legs. All crew members were legal, current and qualified (licenses, check rides, etc). FAA operations inspector arrived and announced a 'ramp check.' first officer realized that he had left his license and medical at home. First officer is 24 yrs old, his airline pilot aspirations, saw a violation coming and figured this would prevent him from ever getting an airline job. He lied, said that he was a non-flying observer and that the flight crew consisted of 3RD pilot and myself. He then winked at me before I could say 'huh?' I stood there, dumbfounded, while inspector asked the (real) observer when he had taken his far 135 chkride. Observer answered, truthfully, that he had not yet taken the chkride, and the lie was obvious. (Inspector was not amused.) first officer got company to 'facsimile' him copies of his medical and licenses. Inspector was satisfied with that.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT FLEW WITHOUT LICENSES IN POSSESSION UNTIL CAUGHT ON FAA RAMP CHK. TEMPORARIES WERE PROVIDED. FAA SATISFIED.
Narrative: NON SCHEDULED (CHARTER) FREIGHT OP IN A FA20. WE HAD FLOWN 1 TRIP (3 LEGS). CREW CONSISTED OF MYSELF, MY FO, AND A THIRD PLT, ACTING AS JUMP SEAT OBSERVER, WHO ALSO FLEW AS FO ON FAR 91 (NON REVENUE) LEGS. ALL CREW MEMBERS WERE LEGAL, CURRENT AND QUALIFIED (LICENSES, CHK RIDES, ETC). FAA OPS INSPECTOR ARRIVED AND ANNOUNCED A 'RAMP CHK.' FO REALIZED THAT HE HAD LEFT HIS LICENSE AND MEDICAL AT HOME. FO IS 24 YRS OLD, HIS AIRLINE PLT ASPIRATIONS, SAW A VIOLATION COMING AND FIGURED THIS WOULD PREVENT HIM FROM EVER GETTING AN AIRLINE JOB. HE LIED, SAID THAT HE WAS A NON-FLYING OBSERVER AND THAT THE FLC CONSISTED OF 3RD PLT AND MYSELF. HE THEN WINKED AT ME BEFORE I COULD SAY 'HUH?' I STOOD THERE, DUMBFOUNDED, WHILE INSPECTOR ASKED THE (REAL) OBSERVER WHEN HE HAD TAKEN HIS FAR 135 CHKRIDE. OBSERVER ANSWERED, TRUTHFULLY, THAT HE HAD NOT YET TAKEN THE CHKRIDE, AND THE LIE WAS OBVIOUS. (INSPECTOR WAS NOT AMUSED.) FO GOT COMPANY TO 'FAX' HIM COPIES OF HIS MEDICAL AND LICENSES. INSPECTOR WAS SATISFIED WITH THAT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.