Narrative:

After being cleared as filed (bzn direct aao), the captain had me fly the published IFR departure procedure, even though the WX was clear, day VFR. The ZLC controller had told us to report 15 mi southeast of the bzn VOR, which made me wonder why the captain had me flying west. The controller asked for a position report which the captain didn't give, leading to confusion with the controller. The controller then cleared us to the VOR, victor 86, livingston, direct aao. Instead of looking at the chart, the captain became confused and argued with the controller about the clearance. As the PF, I needed a radial to fly outbound to comply with the new clearance. Instead of getting me this information, the captain continued to argue about the new clearance. The result was a late turn on the newly assigned route and a frustrated controller. I believe part of the confusion was caused when the control tower gave us our clearance, 'as filed,' which was direct. The captain, wanting to fly the published IFR departure procedure, even though it was day cavu WX, took us west of the airport. The ZLC controller expected us to be southeast. There isn't an approach/departure controller at bzn and radar contact is not established with the ctrl until some altitude is gained. The corrective action, in my opinion, is not to argue with a controller, but to ask calmly for clarification if you don't understand the clearance.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: THE FO OF A CHARTER FLT BECAME FRUSTRATED WITH HIS CAPT WHO SPENT VALUABLE TIME ARGUING WITH THE CTLR RATHER THAN RELAYING INFO FOR A NEW CLRNC. THE DELAY CAUSED THE FO TO TURN LATE ONTO THE NEWLY ASSIGNED RTE.

Narrative: AFTER BEING CLRED AS FILED (BZN DIRECT AAO), THE CAPT HAD ME FLY THE PUBLISHED IFR DEP PROC, EVEN THOUGH THE WX WAS CLR, DAY VFR. THE ZLC CTLR HAD TOLD US TO RPT 15 MI SE OF THE BZN VOR, WHICH MADE ME WONDER WHY THE CAPT HAD ME FLYING W. THE CTLR ASKED FOR A POS RPT WHICH THE CAPT DIDN'T GIVE, LEADING TO CONFUSION WITH THE CTLR. THE CTLR THEN CLRED US TO THE VOR, VICTOR 86, LIVINGSTON, DIRECT AAO. INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE CHART, THE CAPT BECAME CONFUSED AND ARGUED WITH THE CTLR ABOUT THE CLRNC. AS THE PF, I NEEDED A RADIAL TO FLY OUTBOUND TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW CLRNC. INSTEAD OF GETTING ME THIS INFO, THE CAPT CONTINUED TO ARGUE ABOUT THE NEW CLRNC. THE RESULT WAS A LATE TURN ON THE NEWLY ASSIGNED RTE AND A FRUSTRATED CTLR. I BELIEVE PART OF THE CONFUSION WAS CAUSED WHEN THE CTL TWR GAVE US OUR CLRNC, 'AS FILED,' WHICH WAS DIRECT. THE CAPT, WANTING TO FLY THE PUBLISHED IFR DEP PROC, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS DAY CAVU WX, TOOK US W OF THE ARPT. THE ZLC CTLR EXPECTED US TO BE SE. THERE ISN'T AN APCH/DEP CTLR AT BZN AND RADAR CONTACT IS NOT ESTABLISHED WITH THE CTRL UNTIL SOME ALT IS GAINED. THE CORRECTIVE ACTION, IN MY OPINION, IS NOT TO ARGUE WITH A CTLR, BUT TO ASK CALMLY FOR CLARIFICATION IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CLRNC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.