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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 436360 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199905 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : flo.airport |
| State Reference | SC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : flo.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1750 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 436360 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approach just assigned 'on course' to us leaving the flo class D airspace. I told departure passing 1800 ft for 3000 ft. Student confused about for tracking. Altitude went to 4000 ft before I realized it. I initiated conversation with ATC. We weren't assigned an altitude, but we were past what I said we would. To correct, when in VMC outside of class a, B, C, or D airspace, need way to control altitude that is non binding -- like cruise XXX. Ie, range of altitude, say +/-1000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR WITH STUDENT IN A C172 CLBS ABOVE ALT HE HAD INDICATED TO ATC.
Narrative: APCH JUST ASSIGNED 'ON COURSE' TO US LEAVING THE FLO CLASS D AIRSPACE. I TOLD DEP PASSING 1800 FT FOR 3000 FT. STUDENT CONFUSED ABOUT FOR TRACKING. ALT WENT TO 4000 FT BEFORE I REALIZED IT. I INITIATED CONVERSATION WITH ATC. WE WEREN'T ASSIGNED AN ALT, BUT WE WERE PAST WHAT I SAID WE WOULD. TO CORRECT, WHEN IN VMC OUTSIDE OF CLASS A, B, C, OR D AIRSPACE, NEED WAY TO CTL ALT THAT IS NON BINDING -- LIKE CRUISE XXX. IE, RANGE OF ALT, SAY +/-1000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.