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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 435326 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199904 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ege.airport |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon tower : ege.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Conquest I/Conquest II |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure : other published ifr departure |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 435326 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Prior to departure from ege airport, I looked over (twice) the departure procedures from the airport. I thought I understood it. Upon getting the clearance, ATC advised me that the departure procedure was rather complicated to review it, so I did once more (reviewed it). Upon departure, I flew it as I understood it and made a left turn and contacted den control. He asked if I was making a left turn. When I said yes, he said I was entering aspen airspace and I was to continue my left turn back around to the north. Then he asked if this was my first time out of ege. I replied, 'once 5 yrs back.' upon reading the departure procedure for the 5TH time, I now understand this procedure. Is there any way that a graphic for this departure can be issued? Because if others have such a tough time understanding the text and not have the privilege of such a rapid climbing aircraft as I did, the mountains and metal may come together some day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ATP RATED PLT FLYING A C441 DEPARTING EGE ARPT BECOMES CONFUSED WITH THE PUBLISHED DEP PROC.
Narrative: PRIOR TO DEP FROM EGE ARPT, I LOOKED OVER (TWICE) THE DEP PROCS FROM THE ARPT. I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD IT. UPON GETTING THE CLRNC, ATC ADVISED ME THAT THE DEP PROC WAS RATHER COMPLICATED TO REVIEW IT, SO I DID ONCE MORE (REVIEWED IT). UPON DEP, I FLEW IT AS I UNDERSTOOD IT AND MADE A L TURN AND CONTACTED DEN CTL. HE ASKED IF I WAS MAKING A L TURN. WHEN I SAID YES, HE SAID I WAS ENTERING ASPEN AIRSPACE AND I WAS TO CONTINUE MY L TURN BACK AROUND TO THE N. THEN HE ASKED IF THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME OUT OF EGE. I REPLIED, 'ONCE 5 YRS BACK.' UPON READING THE DEP PROC FOR THE 5TH TIME, I NOW UNDERSTAND THIS PROC. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT A GRAPHIC FOR THIS DEP CAN BE ISSUED? BECAUSE IF OTHERS HAVE SUCH A TOUGH TIME UNDERSTANDING THE TEXT AND NOT HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SUCH A RAPID CLBING ACFT AS I DID, THE MOUNTAINS AND METAL MAY COME TOGETHER SOME DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.