Flight crew of a B727 took off over an air taxi aircraft which was announcing over CTAF that he was ...

Attributes
ACN	431334
Time
Date	199903
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0001 To 0600
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cid.airport
State Reference	IA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zau.artcc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 1600 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 60
ASRS Report	431334
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : far other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action
Miss Distance	horizontal : 300 vertical : 300
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Due to a mechanical problem, our flight departed cid after the tower closed for the night. We complied with our company's 'non tower' procedures found on our commercial chart page. The first officer called ZAU prior to taxi for our clearance using the VHF #2 radio. The first officer then made a 'taxiing to runway 9' call on the CTAF using the VHF #1 radio. Upon reaching the end of runway 9, the first officer called 'taking the active' on CTAF. As we lined up, we heard air carrier Y announce his taxiing on the CTAF. The first officer then called 'beginning takeoff roll' on CTAF and ZAU's frequency. I xferred aircraft control to the first officer and we began rolling. Between 80-100 KTS, we heard air carrier Y announce his intentions for an intersection takeoff (taxiway a) on runway 27. The first officer and I both had the air carrier Y in sight, and as we neared V1 (rotate speed) we saw that he was not going to stop prior to entering the runway. The first officer expedited rotation and we went over the air carrier Y by approximately 300 ft as he entered the runway. During this time, I tried contacting air carrier Y on CTAF but he did not respond. Soon after clearing him, we heard him query ZAU if they just had someone take off from cid. ZAU told him of our departure, and air carrier Y wanted to know why we hadn't made any calls on the CTAF. We told ZAU that we had in fact made calls that went unanswered by air carrier Y. I also told ZAU we had heard air carrier Y but he evidently hadn't heard us. Air carrier Y said something about the volume on his radios, and that 'he guesses he's just used to having cid to himself at that time of night' ZAU responded that it sounded like everybody did what they were supposed to have done. One thing, however, was not done. I can understand missing some radio calls, but I cannot understand how someone taxies onto a runway without visually clearing it -- especially when the tower is closed.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF A B727 TOOK OFF OVER AN AIR TAXI ACFT WHICH WAS ANNOUNCING OVER CTAF THAT HE WAS TAKING THE RWY AT A TXWY INTXN FOR A TKOF IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TO WHICH THE RPTR IN THE B727 WAS TAKING OFF.

Narrative: DUE TO A MECHANICAL PROB, OUR FLT DEPARTED CID AFTER THE TWR CLOSED FOR THE NIGHT. WE COMPLIED WITH OUR COMPANY'S 'NON TWR' PROCS FOUND ON OUR COMMERCIAL CHART PAGE. THE FO CALLED ZAU PRIOR TO TAXI FOR OUR CLRNC USING THE VHF #2 RADIO. THE FO THEN MADE A 'TAXIING TO RWY 9' CALL ON THE CTAF USING THE VHF #1 RADIO. UPON REACHING THE END OF RWY 9, THE FO CALLED 'TAKING THE ACTIVE' ON CTAF. AS WE LINED UP, WE HEARD ACR Y ANNOUNCE HIS TAXIING ON THE CTAF. THE FO THEN CALLED 'BEGINNING TKOF ROLL' ON CTAF AND ZAU'S FREQ. I XFERRED ACFT CTL TO THE FO AND WE BEGAN ROLLING. BTWN 80-100 KTS, WE HEARD ACR Y ANNOUNCE HIS INTENTIONS FOR AN INTXN TKOF (TXWY A) ON RWY 27. THE FO AND I BOTH HAD THE ACR Y IN SIGHT, AND AS WE NEARED V1 (ROTATE SPD) WE SAW THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO STOP PRIOR TO ENTERING THE RWY. THE FO EXPEDITED ROTATION AND WE WENT OVER THE ACR Y BY APPROX 300 FT AS HE ENTERED THE RWY. DURING THIS TIME, I TRIED CONTACTING ACR Y ON CTAF BUT HE DID NOT RESPOND. SOON AFTER CLRING HIM, WE HEARD HIM QUERY ZAU IF THEY JUST HAD SOMEONE TAKE OFF FROM CID. ZAU TOLD HIM OF OUR DEP, AND ACR Y WANTED TO KNOW WHY WE HADN'T MADE ANY CALLS ON THE CTAF. WE TOLD ZAU THAT WE HAD IN FACT MADE CALLS THAT WENT UNANSWERED BY ACR Y. I ALSO TOLD ZAU WE HAD HEARD ACR Y BUT HE EVIDENTLY HADN'T HEARD US. ACR Y SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE VOLUME ON HIS RADIOS, AND THAT 'HE GUESSES HE'S JUST USED TO HAVING CID TO HIMSELF AT THAT TIME OF NIGHT' ZAU RESPONDED THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE EVERYBODY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DONE. ONE THING, HOWEVER, WAS NOT DONE. I CAN UNDERSTAND MISSING SOME RADIO CALLS, BUT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE TAXIES ONTO A RWY WITHOUT VISUALLY CLRING IT -- ESPECIALLY WHEN THE TWR IS CLOSED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Flight crew of a B727 took off over an air taxi aircraft which was announcing over CTAF that he was taking the runway at a taxiway intersection for a takeoff in the opposite direction to which the reporter in the B727 was taking off.