Pilot is concerned with his air carrier identify of 'special airports.' pilot also idents a hold sho...

Attributes
ACN	430871
Time
Date	199903
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : hnl
State Reference	HI
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 4000
ASRS Report	430871
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
Airport	other physical facility

Narrative:

This is a safety report/question and is not a specific event. 2 items: 1) it is very difficult to find the list of special airports as referenced in the FARS for recent experience. This makes it easy for a pilot going to a new airport to: 1) violate the recent experience far, and B) have an incident/accident by not being aware of the conditions requiring the special airport designation. Could there be something added to the approach charts for these airports, eg, a sign with the letter 'south' surrounded inside a box. 2) the hold lines at hnl between runways 4R/4L are confusing. (Txwys F/D/east?.) after landing, a pilot should clear the runway and yet the hold lines prevent it. Similarly, after clearing the runway, the pilot should not cross another runway without a clearance, and yet the hold lines at hnl allow this crossing. I know they are marked this way due to the minimal separation of the runways, but there has to be a better way. For someone not familiar with the airport, this could cause an accident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: pilot said that at one time the markings were correct. At some point airport maintenance repainted the signs and reversed them. He considers the current markings confusing, and a possible safety problem.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLT IS CONCERNED WITH HIS ACR IDENT OF 'SPECIAL ARPTS.' PLT ALSO IDENTS A HOLD SHORT MARKING PROB AT TXWYS D, E, AND F AT HNL.

Narrative: THIS IS A SAFETY RPT/QUESTION AND IS NOT A SPECIFIC EVENT. 2 ITEMS: 1) IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THE LIST OF SPECIAL ARPTS AS REFED IN THE FARS FOR RECENT EXPERIENCE. THIS MAKES IT EASY FOR A PLT GOING TO A NEW ARPT TO: 1) VIOLATE THE RECENT EXPERIENCE FAR, AND B) HAVE AN INCIDENT/ACCIDENT BY NOT BEING AWARE OF THE CONDITIONS REQUIRING THE SPECIAL ARPT DESIGNATION. COULD THERE BE SOMETHING ADDED TO THE APCH CHARTS FOR THESE ARPTS, EG, A SIGN WITH THE LETTER 'S' SURROUNDED INSIDE A BOX. 2) THE HOLD LINES AT HNL BTWN RWYS 4R/4L ARE CONFUSING. (TXWYS F/D/E?.) AFTER LNDG, A PLT SHOULD CLR THE RWY AND YET THE HOLD LINES PREVENT IT. SIMILARLY, AFTER CLRING THE RWY, THE PLT SHOULD NOT CROSS ANOTHER RWY WITHOUT A CLRNC, AND YET THE HOLD LINES AT HNL ALLOW THIS XING. I KNOW THEY ARE MARKED THIS WAY DUE TO THE MINIMAL SEPARATION OF THE RWYS, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY. FOR SOMEONE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ARPT, THIS COULD CAUSE AN ACCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: PLT SAID THAT AT ONE TIME THE MARKINGS WERE CORRECT. AT SOME POINT ARPT MAINT REPAINTED THE SIGNS AND REVERSED THEM. HE CONSIDERS THE CURRENT MARKINGS CONFUSING, AND A POSSIBLE SAFETY PROB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Pilot is concerned with his air carrier identify of 'special airports.' pilot also idents a hold short marking problem at txwys D, east, and F at hnl.