Pilot of BE33 has difficulty determining restr area airspace requirement under den class B airspace ...

Attributes
ACN	430103
Time
Date	199903
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : fqf
State Reference	CO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : stl.tower
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 800
ASRS Report	430103
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : local
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Problem: may have inadvertently entered an area of temporary flight restr. I was navigating from west to east across denver metropolitan area. I was beneath class B airspace and was talking to buckley tower with permission to pass through their class D airspace. Immediately southeast of the buckley class D is an uncharted area of temporary restr airspace. The controller at buckley did not mention it and I did not have it drawn in on my chart of denver class B airspace. This NOTAM has been in effect for a long time, over a yr, and should be charted for easier location. The area is defined in the NOTAM cannot be located by any normal cockpit navigation equipment such as GPS or VOR/RNAV. It is defined as 4 corners of a box, with radials and distances from fqf VOR. It would be much easier to locate as a radius around a point and/or with GPS latitude/longitude coordinates. As it is now, the only way to locate the restr area is by drawing a picture on the chart. A reminder from the buckley controller would have been very helpful, too.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLT OF BE33 HAS DIFFICULTY DETERMINING RESTR AREA AIRSPACE REQUIREMENT UNDER DEN CLASS B AIRSPACE WITH LITTLE INFO FROM CHARTS OR CTLRS AT BUCKLEY AND DENVER.

Narrative: PROB: MAY HAVE INADVERTENTLY ENTERED AN AREA OF TEMPORARY FLT RESTR. I WAS NAVING FROM W TO E ACROSS DENVER METROPOLITAN AREA. I WAS BENEATH CLASS B AIRSPACE AND WAS TALKING TO BUCKLEY TWR WITH PERMISSION TO PASS THROUGH THEIR CLASS D AIRSPACE. IMMEDIATELY SE OF THE BUCKLEY CLASS D IS AN UNCHARTED AREA OF TEMPORARY RESTR AIRSPACE. THE CTLR AT BUCKLEY DID NOT MENTION IT AND I DID NOT HAVE IT DRAWN IN ON MY CHART OF DENVER CLASS B AIRSPACE. THIS NOTAM HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR A LONG TIME, OVER A YR, AND SHOULD BE CHARTED FOR EASIER LOCATION. THE AREA IS DEFINED IN THE NOTAM CANNOT BE LOCATED BY ANY NORMAL COCKPIT NAV EQUIP SUCH AS GPS OR VOR/RNAV. IT IS DEFINED AS 4 CORNERS OF A BOX, WITH RADIALS AND DISTANCES FROM FQF VOR. IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO LOCATE AS A RADIUS AROUND A POINT AND/OR WITH GPS LATITUDE/LONGITUDE COORDINATES. AS IT IS NOW, THE ONLY WAY TO LOCATE THE RESTR AREA IS BY DRAWING A PICTURE ON THE CHART. A REMINDER FROM THE BUCKLEY CTLR WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL, TOO.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Pilot of BE33 has difficulty determining restr area airspace requirement under den class B airspace with little information from charts or controllers at buckley and denver.