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Captain of a B737-400 complains of ground control lack of providing complete taxi instructions when request for taxi on departure. Only the runway assignment was given without route instructions even though it was necessary to cross an active runway to reach the assigned runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 425940 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199901 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pbi |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 8000 |
| ASRS Report | 425940 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Departing gate in pbi, we were instructed to call tower at spot X calling tower with ATIS and position. Tower responded with 'runway 9L.' when we asked for taxi instructions, he again responded 'runway 9L.' it is my understanding that taxi instructions include clearance to 'taxi to' which despite at least 3 requests for a taxi clearance he would only respond 'runway 9L.' I felt this an improper clearance especially considering to get to runway 9L we had to cross an active runway 31/13.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF A B737-400 COMPLAINS OF GND CTL LACK OF PROVIDING COMPLETE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS WHEN REQUEST FOR TAXI ON DEP. ONLY THE RWY ASSIGNMENT WAS GIVEN WITHOUT RTE INSTRUCTIONS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NECESSARY TO CROSS AN ACTIVE RWY TO REACH THE ASSIGNED RWY.
Narrative: DEPARTING GATE IN PBI, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CALL TWR AT SPOT X CALLING TWR WITH ATIS AND POS. TWR RESPONDED WITH 'RWY 9L.' WHEN WE ASKED FOR TAXI INSTRUCTIONS, HE AGAIN RESPONDED 'RWY 9L.' IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT TAXI INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDE CLRNC TO 'TAXI TO' WHICH DESPITE AT LEAST 3 REQUESTS FOR A TAXI CLRNC HE WOULD ONLY RESPOND 'RWY 9L.' I FELT THIS AN IMPROPER CLRNC ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING TO GET TO RWY 9L WE HAD TO CROSS AN ACTIVE RWY 31/13.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.