<< >> NASA ASRS Report 424802, January 1999

A B737 captain taxies across the hold short line at rdu, nc. Reporter cites poor hold short lines that may require repainting.

Attributes
ACN	424802
Time
Date	199901
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : rdu
State Reference	NC
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	424802
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other
Situations
Airport	other physical facility

Narrative:

Taxiing to runway 23L from the terminal during VFR dusk conditions there was another air carrier plane in place holding short of the runway. He was perpendicular to us. As we got closer to the end of the taxiway, he was cleared for takeoff. We had some construction barriers/lights on the left side of the taxiway just at the end as you make the turn. I was looking there ensuring I wouldn't hit anything or knock it over with jet blast. After I rounded the corner, I looked for the hold short line. (I had the mental picture of the previous aircraft perpendicular to us, turned fully 90 degrees.) not seeing one, I stopped immediately and looked behind us. We crossed what looked to be the hold short line by 10-15 ft. As I found the line, tower cleared us for takeoff. The hold short line did not stand out with my taxi light on (may require repainting). The first officer was on his second flight since IOE and, while enthusiastic, not very helpful.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B737 CAPT TAXIES ACROSS THE HOLD SHORT LINE AT RDU, NC. RPTR CITES POOR HOLD SHORT LINES THAT MAY REQUIRE REPAINTING.

Narrative: TAXIING TO RWY 23L FROM THE TERMINAL DURING VFR DUSK CONDITIONS THERE WAS ANOTHER ACR PLANE IN PLACE HOLDING SHORT OF THE RWY. HE WAS PERPENDICULAR TO US. AS WE GOT CLOSER TO THE END OF THE TXWY, HE WAS CLRED FOR TKOF. WE HAD SOME CONSTRUCTION BARRIERS/LIGHTS ON THE L SIDE OF THE TXWY JUST AT THE END AS YOU MAKE THE TURN. I WAS LOOKING THERE ENSURING I WOULDN'T HIT ANYTHING OR KNOCK IT OVER WITH JET BLAST. AFTER I ROUNDED THE CORNER, I LOOKED FOR THE HOLD SHORT LINE. (I HAD THE MENTAL PICTURE OF THE PREVIOUS ACFT PERPENDICULAR TO US, TURNED FULLY 90 DEGS.) NOT SEEING ONE, I STOPPED IMMEDIATELY AND LOOKED BEHIND US. WE CROSSED WHAT LOOKED TO BE THE HOLD SHORT LINE BY 10-15 FT. AS I FOUND THE LINE, TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF. THE HOLD SHORT LINE DID NOT STAND OUT WITH MY TAXI LIGHT ON (MAY REQUIRE REPAINTING). THE FO WAS ON HIS SECOND FLT SINCE IOE AND, WHILE ENTHUSIASTIC, NOT VERY HELPFUL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.