Narrative:

During landing rollout on runway 34, I recall hearing instructions to 'hold short of runway 2 at end of runway 34,' I glanced at the airport diagram, noticed that runway 34 and runway 2 was separated by taxiway Q. Reaching the last 100 ft of runway 34, my attention was on stopping the aircraft. As I turned off the runway, it became apparent that I was going to have to stop before crossing the edge boundary of runway 2. I was expecting to see hold lines on taxiway Q near runway 34. Where I stopped, 1/2 of the aircraft (DC8-63) was still on runway 34, short of runway 2's edge boundary, on taxiway Q. Notes: the problem arose or the misconception started with: 1) no lahso data stated on airport runway information plate (10-9A). 2) on the ric ATIS for that morning, there was no mention of lahso operations in effect. 3) the tower gave the hold short instructions after landing during rollout. All 3 crew members have experience on the DC8 with this company and knowing our air carrier does not accept lahso instruction due to operational considerations. The response to hold short on runway 34 would have been 'unable.' could have been prevented: 1) place a remark text on the airport diagram where the hold lines are physically located on runway 34 with a small arrow. 2) state on the ATIS that lahso operations are in use (would give flight crew time to coordination with tower). 3) give the instructions to hold short during the landing clearance (would advise at that time 'unable'). 4) place the lahso distance on the runway information plate to ensure a runway analysis computation is/has been performed. Supplemental information from acn 422417: due to our proximity to runway 2, a small commuter aircraft aborted his takeoff believing that we were blocking the runway. We did not enter runway 2 at all. To sort things out we contacted the ATC controller and it was explained that the hold short line was actually on runway 34. I've only seen hold shorts on intersecting runways. To prevent a future event, I highly recommend that a note be inserted on the ILS runway 34 approach plate that aircraft may be asked to hold short of runway 2 here.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A DC8-63 PIC RPT ON THE LACK OF RWY HOLD MARKINGS ON THE ARPT AERO CHART FOR RWY 34 HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 2 AT RIC, VA. COMMUTER ACFT ON RWY ABORTED TKOF, THINKING DC8 WAS TOO CLOSE TO RWY.

Narrative: DURING LNDG ROLLOUT ON RWY 34, I RECALL HEARING INSTRUCTIONS TO 'HOLD SHORT OF RWY 2 AT END OF RWY 34,' I GLANCED AT THE ARPT DIAGRAM, NOTICED THAT RWY 34 AND RWY 2 WAS SEPARATED BY TXWY Q. REACHING THE LAST 100 FT OF RWY 34, MY ATTN WAS ON STOPPING THE ACFT. AS I TURNED OFF THE RWY, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO STOP BEFORE XING THE EDGE BOUNDARY OF RWY 2. I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE HOLD LINES ON TXWY Q NEAR RWY 34. WHERE I STOPPED, 1/2 OF THE ACFT (DC8-63) WAS STILL ON RWY 34, SHORT OF RWY 2'S EDGE BOUNDARY, ON TXWY Q. NOTES: THE PROB AROSE OR THE MISCONCEPTION STARTED WITH: 1) NO LAHSO DATA STATED ON ARPT RWY INFO PLATE (10-9A). 2) ON THE RIC ATIS FOR THAT MORNING, THERE WAS NO MENTION OF LAHSO OPS IN EFFECT. 3) THE TWR GAVE THE HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS AFTER LNDG DURING ROLLOUT. ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS HAVE EXPERIENCE ON THE DC8 WITH THIS COMPANY AND KNOWING OUR ACR DOES NOT ACCEPT LAHSO INSTRUCTION DUE TO OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS. THE RESPONSE TO HOLD SHORT ON RWY 34 WOULD HAVE BEEN 'UNABLE.' COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED: 1) PLACE A REMARK TEXT ON THE ARPT DIAGRAM WHERE THE HOLD LINES ARE PHYSICALLY LOCATED ON RWY 34 WITH A SMALL ARROW. 2) STATE ON THE ATIS THAT LAHSO OPS ARE IN USE (WOULD GIVE FLC TIME TO COORD WITH TWR). 3) GIVE THE INSTRUCTIONS TO HOLD SHORT DURING THE LNDG CLRNC (WOULD ADVISE AT THAT TIME 'UNABLE'). 4) PLACE THE LAHSO DISTANCE ON THE RWY INFO PLATE TO ENSURE A RWY ANALYSIS COMPUTATION IS/HAS BEEN PERFORMED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 422417: DUE TO OUR PROX TO RWY 2, A SMALL COMMUTER ACFT ABORTED HIS TKOF BELIEVING THAT WE WERE BLOCKING THE RWY. WE DID NOT ENTER RWY 2 AT ALL. TO SORT THINGS OUT WE CONTACTED THE ATC CTLR AND IT WAS EXPLAINED THAT THE HOLD SHORT LINE WAS ACTUALLY ON RWY 34. I'VE ONLY SEEN HOLD SHORTS ON INTERSECTING RWYS. TO PREVENT A FUTURE EVENT, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT A NOTE BE INSERTED ON THE ILS RWY 34 APCH PLATE THAT ACFT MAY BE ASKED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 2 HERE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.