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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 420970 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199811 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 1800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sba |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Experience | controller radar : 8 |
| ASRS Report | 420970 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter other non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier Y descended on the ILS without a clearance creating an overtake situation with air carrier X, a proceeding B757. Numerous attempts to contact aircraft were unsuccessful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: APCH CTLR CLAIMS AN A320 CREW DSNDED ON THE ILS WITHOUT A CLRNC AND CREATED A CTL PROB.
Narrative: ACR Y DSNDED ON THE ILS WITHOUT A CLRNC CREATING AN OVERTAKE SIT WITH ACR X, A PROCEEDING B757. NUMEROUS ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT ACFT WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.