<< >> NASA ASRS Report 419531, November 1998

A turboprop PIC's report on an altitude deviation that may classify as a CFIT incident during a night visual approach operation into clt, nc.

Attributes
ACN	419531
Time
Date	199811
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : clt airport : clt
State Reference	NC
Altitude	agl bound lower : 800 agl bound upper : 900
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : clt tracon : lax
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : straight in approach : visual arrival other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time total : 15300 flight time type : 1700
ASRS Report	419531
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

While flying with a new hire first officer, I was letting him fly the empty legs. We were on a night visual approach. We were told to hold 170 KTS to the marker. This caused him to be rushed. This first officer is from a foreign country and has trouble understanding my instructions. We started to go below the GS. I told him we were low. He did not adjust our descent. I again told him we were low. I then took the aircraft and adjusted our descent. I let a dangerous situation develop because I did not want to hurt his pride. I should have taken control sooner and then talk about it on the ground.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A TURBOPROP PIC'S RPT ON AN ALTDEV THAT MAY CLASSIFY AS A CFIT INCIDENT DURING A NIGHT VISUAL APCH OP INTO CLT, NC.

Narrative: WHILE FLYING WITH A NEW HIRE FO, I WAS LETTING HIM FLY THE EMPTY LEGS. WE WERE ON A NIGHT VISUAL APCH. WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD 170 KTS TO THE MARKER. THIS CAUSED HIM TO BE RUSHED. THIS FO IS FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY AND HAS TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING MY INSTRUCTIONS. WE STARTED TO GO BELOW THE GS. I TOLD HIM WE WERE LOW. HE DID NOT ADJUST OUR DSCNT. I AGAIN TOLD HIM WE WERE LOW. I THEN TOOK THE ACFT AND ADJUSTED OUR DSCNT. I LET A DANGEROUS SIT DEVELOP BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT TO HURT HIS PRIDE. I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN CTL SOONER AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT ON THE GND.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.