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A pilot alerts an FSS controller that the pilot briefing he just gave to another pilot was not correct. The FSS controller was briefing utilizing out of date class ii NOTAM material. The FSS controller alerted his supervisor who, when investigating, found other out of date briefing material.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 414135 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199809 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dca |
| State Reference | DC |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : phx |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | other |
| ASRS Report | 414135 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
| Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
On sep/xe/98 at XA48Z, I briefed a pilot of aircraft #1, VFR, from dca to blm (belmar, nj). At the end of the briefing, the pilot requested any class ii NOTAMS pertaining to blm. I looked up the new jersey class ii NOTAMS and informed the pilot that there were no class ii's published at this time. A few mins later, after this brief, a pilot at the walk-in counter informed me that the class ii NOTAM book at the counter was out of date, dated obsolete sep/xa/98, 5 days earlier! Upon checking around with the supervisor, we found that all class ii books were obsolete. The one book I used to advise aircraft #1 was obsolete as of aug/xb/98. Unfortunately the pilot did not get the correct information for blm. Upon further checking the supervisor found more obsolete class ii's in the store room but no current class ii's were evident anywhere.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PLT ALERTS AN FSS CTLR THAT THE PLT BRIEFING HE JUST GAVE TO ANOTHER PLT WAS NOT CORRECT. THE FSS CTLR WAS BRIEFING UTILIZING OUT OF DATE CLASS II NOTAM MATERIAL. THE FSS CTLR ALERTED HIS SUPVR WHO, WHEN INVESTIGATING, FOUND OTHER OUT OF DATE BRIEFING MATERIAL.
Narrative: ON SEP/XE/98 AT XA48Z, I BRIEFED A PLT OF ACFT #1, VFR, FROM DCA TO BLM (BELMAR, NJ). AT THE END OF THE BRIEFING, THE PLT REQUESTED ANY CLASS II NOTAMS PERTAINING TO BLM. I LOOKED UP THE NEW JERSEY CLASS II NOTAMS AND INFORMED THE PLT THAT THERE WERE NO CLASS II'S PUBLISHED AT THIS TIME. A FEW MINS LATER, AFTER THIS BRIEF, A PLT AT THE WALK-IN COUNTER INFORMED ME THAT THE CLASS II NOTAM BOOK AT THE COUNTER WAS OUT OF DATE, DATED OBSOLETE SEP/XA/98, 5 DAYS EARLIER! UPON CHKING AROUND WITH THE SUPVR, WE FOUND THAT ALL CLASS II BOOKS WERE OBSOLETE. THE ONE BOOK I USED TO ADVISE ACFT #1 WAS OBSOLETE AS OF AUG/XB/98. UNFORTUNATELY THE PLT DID NOT GET THE CORRECT INFO FOR BLM. UPON FURTHER CHKING THE SUPVR FOUND MORE OBSOLETE CLASS II'S IN THE STORE ROOM BUT NO CURRENT CLASS II'S WERE EVIDENT ANYWHERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.