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Pilot in a C337 refused an IFR clearance to 14000 ft due to a lack of oxygen on board. After takeoff and handed off the ZTL and again refused climb to 14000 ft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 413470 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199809 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : gso |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl tower : lga |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Super Skymaster |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 1850 |
| ASRS Report | 413470 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : clearance delivery |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : unable other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Accepted a clearance from ATC on the ground at gso to 14000 ft. This was an unacceptable altitude for the flight because of the lack of oxygen on board. The flight plan was filed for 12000 ft, a non oxygen altitude. Upon departure a clearance to 7000 ft was given by gso approach. 10 mins into the flight, a handoff to ZTL was effected. ZTL assigned the 14000 ft altitude, 12000 ft was requested and denied. ZTL apparently checked with the previous controller regarding the pilot's requested altitude of 12000 ft. An altitude of 13000 ft until past ctf VOR was assigned ZTL and accepted -- less than 15 mins above 12500 ft. ATC and pilots on IFR flight plans need to work more closely for more direct routing and acceptable altitudes that VFR pilots follow. This I see as a compromise to air safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT IN A C337 REFUSED AN IFR CLRNC TO 14000 FT DUE TO A LACK OF OXYGEN ON BOARD. AFTER TKOF AND HANDED OFF THE ZTL AND AGAIN REFUSED CLB TO 14000 FT.
Narrative: ACCEPTED A CLRNC FROM ATC ON THE GND AT GSO TO 14000 FT. THIS WAS AN UNACCEPTABLE ALT FOR THE FLT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF OXYGEN ON BOARD. THE FLT PLAN WAS FILED FOR 12000 FT, A NON OXYGEN ALT. UPON DEP A CLRNC TO 7000 FT WAS GIVEN BY GSO APCH. 10 MINS INTO THE FLT, A HDOF TO ZTL WAS EFFECTED. ZTL ASSIGNED THE 14000 FT ALT, 12000 FT WAS REQUESTED AND DENIED. ZTL APPARENTLY CHKED WITH THE PREVIOUS CTLR REGARDING THE PLT'S REQUESTED ALT OF 12000 FT. AN ALT OF 13000 FT UNTIL PAST CTF VOR WAS ASSIGNED ZTL AND ACCEPTED -- LESS THAN 15 MINS ABOVE 12500 FT. ATC AND PLTS ON IFR FLT PLANS NEED TO WORK MORE CLOSELY FOR MORE DIRECT ROUTING AND ACCEPTABLE ALTS THAT VFR PLTS FOLLOW. THIS I SEE AS A COMPROMISE TO AIR SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.