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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 412391 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199808 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rys |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-23 Apache (& Geronimo Apache) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 412391 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time total : 2000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This was a training flight. I was demonstrating an approach to landing to the student. There was a slower aircraft in the traffic pattern (C172). I was discussing with the student this slower aircraft and I slowed our aircraft down downwind to prevent from overtaking the C172. On final, the student asked me if I wanted full flaps and I said no because the C172 missed the turnoff and I was probably going to do a go around. The C172 then taxied off of the runway to the left. I continued the landing and asked the student (a 2000+ hour pilot) for full flaps. Neither of us did a final check to assure the gear was down. The aircraft skidded approximately 1000 ft. There were no injuries. Clearly the slower aircraft was a major distraction.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA23 INSTRUCTOR PLT LANDED GEAR UP.
Narrative: THIS WAS A TRAINING FLT. I WAS DEMONSTRATING AN APCH TO LNDG TO THE STUDENT. THERE WAS A SLOWER ACFT IN THE TFC PATTERN (C172). I WAS DISCUSSING WITH THE STUDENT THIS SLOWER ACFT AND I SLOWED OUR ACFT DOWN DOWNWIND TO PREVENT FROM OVERTAKING THE C172. ON FINAL, THE STUDENT ASKED ME IF I WANTED FULL FLAPS AND I SAID NO BECAUSE THE C172 MISSED THE TURNOFF AND I WAS PROBABLY GOING TO DO A GAR. THE C172 THEN TAXIED OFF OF THE RWY TO THE L. I CONTINUED THE LNDG AND ASKED THE STUDENT (A 2000+ HR PLT) FOR FULL FLAPS. NEITHER OF US DID A FINAL CHK TO ASSURE THE GEAR WAS DOWN. THE ACFT SKIDDED APPROX 1000 FT. THERE WERE NO INJURIES. CLRLY THE SLOWER ACFT WAS A MAJOR DISTR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.