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Flight crew of a C560 is told 2 days after the fact that they neglected to report on 5 mi final and landed without clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 411500 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199808 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ege |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : grb |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation V |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach ground other : taxi landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 411500 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was the PNF on a straight in visual approach to ege runway 25. We contacted ege tower about 10 mi out. We were told to report a 5 mi final. As far as I can remember we did and were cleared to land. As we were rolling out the tower instructed us to turn left, taxi to the ramp and stay on tower frequency. 2 days later I was informed that the tower claims we didn't report 5 mi nor were cleared to land. They say they didn't see us until we were rolling out. There was no other traffic at the time. If they hadn't heard from us why didn't they question our position? If they didn't see us until we were rolling out obviously they weren't looking out the window as required by the .65. It was the first officer's first time into this mountainous airport and I was pointing things out to him so we were being extra vigilant.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A C560 IS TOLD 2 DAYS AFTER THE FACT THAT THEY NEGLECTED TO RPT ON 5 MI FINAL AND LANDED WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: I WAS THE PNF ON A STRAIGHT IN VISUAL APCH TO EGE RWY 25. WE CONTACTED EGE TWR ABOUT 10 MI OUT. WE WERE TOLD TO RPT A 5 MI FINAL. AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER WE DID AND WERE CLRED TO LAND. AS WE WERE ROLLING OUT THE TWR INSTRUCTED US TO TURN L, TAXI TO THE RAMP AND STAY ON TWR FREQ. 2 DAYS LATER I WAS INFORMED THAT THE TWR CLAIMS WE DIDN'T RPT 5 MI NOR WERE CLRED TO LAND. THEY SAY THEY DIDN'T SEE US UNTIL WE WERE ROLLING OUT. THERE WAS NO OTHER TFC AT THE TIME. IF THEY HADN'T HEARD FROM US WHY DIDN'T THEY QUESTION OUR POS? IF THEY DIDN'T SEE US UNTIL WE WERE ROLLING OUT OBVIOUSLY THEY WEREN'T LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW AS REQUIRED BY THE .65. IT WAS THE FO'S FIRST TIME INTO THIS MOUNTAINOUS ARPT AND I WAS POINTING THINGS OUT TO HIM SO WE WERE BEING EXTRA VIGILANT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.