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Crew on B727 instructed by company ramp control to follow B767. Crew taxied into movement area without clearance from ground control.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 410240 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199808 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 410240 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Taxiing out of company ramp jfk, company ramp personnel said to 'taxi up to 'la' and contact ground, follow B767 ahead.' we did that, but were in error. We should have gone to 'kk' to call ground control.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CREW ON B727 INSTRUCTED BY COMPANY RAMP CTL TO FOLLOW B767. CREW TAXIED INTO MOVEMENT AREA WITHOUT CLRNC FROM GND CTL.
Narrative: TAXIING OUT OF COMPANY RAMP JFK, COMPANY RAMP PERSONNEL SAID TO 'TAXI UP TO 'LA' AND CONTACT GND, FOLLOW B767 AHEAD.' WE DID THAT, BUT WERE IN ERROR. WE SHOULD HAVE GONE TO 'KK' TO CALL GND CTL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.