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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 410138 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199807 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : fhr |
| State Reference | WA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : nuw |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 25 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 1200 flight time type : 10 |
| ASRS Report | 410138 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was serving as sic on a learjet 25 with a highly experienced captain. I had only 8 hours in the type, with all hours with this captain. He is notorious for having his sic there only to warm the seat. It is largely a single-pilot operation. The flight was a part 91 flight he donated to a benefit auction. It was sight-seeing that took us over the olympic mountains and then over the san juan islands (all VFR). The VFR over the mountains took us 500 ft over a wildlife refuge at high power. Near friday harbor, the captain brought the aircraft down to within 500 ft of the surface. I mentioned something about the proximity of our position to the populated areas (beneath us). He wouldn't acknowledge me. Never was I in doubt of the safety of the flight. I was comfortable with the captain's flying but very uncomfortable with his decision to fly so low. I wasn't sure of the responsibilities I had or should have taken, being sic. I haven't flown with the captain since.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF A LEARJET, LR25, RPTS THAT THE CAPT MADE LOW PASSES NEAR UNCTLED ARPT, AND POPULATED AREAS, AT 500 FT ABOVE GND LEVEL. THE CAPT WAS MAKING SIGHT-SEEING FLT FOR A BENEFIT AUCTION.
Narrative: I WAS SERVING AS SIC ON A LEARJET 25 WITH A HIGHLY EXPERIENCED CAPT. I HAD ONLY 8 HRS IN THE TYPE, WITH ALL HRS WITH THIS CAPT. HE IS NOTORIOUS FOR HAVING HIS SIC THERE ONLY TO WARM THE SEAT. IT IS LARGELY A SINGLE-PLT OP. THE FLT WAS A PART 91 FLT HE DONATED TO A BENEFIT AUCTION. IT WAS SIGHT-SEEING THAT TOOK US OVER THE OLYMPIC MOUNTAINS AND THEN OVER THE SAN JUAN ISLANDS (ALL VFR). THE VFR OVER THE MOUNTAINS TOOK US 500 FT OVER A WILDLIFE REFUGE AT HIGH PWR. NEAR FRIDAY HARBOR, THE CAPT BROUGHT THE ACFT DOWN TO WITHIN 500 FT OF THE SURFACE. I MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROX OF OUR POS TO THE POPULATED AREAS (BENEATH US). HE WOULDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE ME. NEVER WAS I IN DOUBT OF THE SAFETY OF THE FLT. I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE CAPT'S FLYING BUT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH HIS DECISION TO FLY SO LOW. I WASN'T SURE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES I HAD OR SHOULD HAVE TAKEN, BEING SIC. I HAVEN'T FLOWN WITH THE CAPT SINCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.