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A king air 90 cpr pilot lands over a parked PA25 on the runway which is being prepared for a tow operation. Pilot of the BE10 had received 'permission' from the PA25 pilot to land over his aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 401700 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199805 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : 1v6 |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 20 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | King Air 100 A/B |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | PA-25 Pawnee |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 1400 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 401700 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 20 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
This pilot did not perceive that a problem occurred. However, since there seemed to be some safety concerns on the part of other aviators, and an obvious potential hazard, I felt it necessary to send some information. At the fremont county airport there are glider operations and they stage at the end of the only paved runway. During a normal landing procedure for runway 11 there was a glider and tow plane staging at runway end. Communications were established with the tow plane and permission was given by the tow plane to overfly the staging operations and land. There was concern that the overflt was too close even though the landing aircraft didn't touch down until almost midfield. Solution: there is some area next to the runway where staging can take place without tying up the runway, and when the tow is ready they can proceed at a slight angle out to the runway more like normal air traffic. There is also a problem with gliders back-taxiing with a golf cart tow for extended periods and golf cart activity on the runway that should be addressed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A KING AIR 90 CPR PLT LANDS OVER A PARKED PA25 ON THE RWY WHICH IS BEING PREPARED FOR A TOW OP. PLT OF THE BE10 HAD RECEIVED 'PERMISSION' FROM THE PA25 PLT TO LAND OVER HIS ACFT.
Narrative: THIS PLT DID NOT PERCEIVE THAT A PROB OCCURRED. HOWEVER, SINCE THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS ON THE PART OF OTHER AVIATORS, AND AN OBVIOUS POTENTIAL HAZARD, I FELT IT NECESSARY TO SEND SOME INFO. AT THE FREMONT COUNTY ARPT THERE ARE GLIDER OPS AND THEY STAGE AT THE END OF THE ONLY PAVED RWY. DURING A NORMAL LNDG PROC FOR RWY 11 THERE WAS A GLIDER AND TOW PLANE STAGING AT RWY END. COMS WERE ESTABLISHED WITH THE TOW PLANE AND PERMISSION WAS GIVEN BY THE TOW PLANE TO OVERFLY THE STAGING OPS AND LAND. THERE WAS CONCERN THAT THE OVERFLT WAS TOO CLOSE EVEN THOUGH THE LNDG ACFT DIDN'T TOUCH DOWN UNTIL ALMOST MIDFIELD. SOLUTION: THERE IS SOME AREA NEXT TO THE RWY WHERE STAGING CAN TAKE PLACE WITHOUT TYING UP THE RWY, AND WHEN THE TOW IS READY THEY CAN PROCEED AT A SLIGHT ANGLE OUT TO THE RWY MORE LIKE NORMAL AIR TFC. THERE IS ALSO A PROB WITH GLIDERS BACK-TAXIING WITH A GOLF CART TOW FOR EXTENDED PERIODS AND GOLF CART ACTIVITY ON THE RWY THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.