<< >> NASA ASRS Report 399404, April 1998

2 piper aircraft experience an near midair collision at a non tower airport, one landing, the other departure traffic.

Attributes
ACN	399404
Time
Date	199804
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ikk
State Reference	IL
Altitude	agl bound lower : 10 agl bound upper : 300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	PA-23 Apache (& Geronimo Apache)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	399404
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 300
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

The apache was in the pattern when I was on the ground getting fuel. I heard him ask unicom for WX conditions, which probably means he was unfamiliar with the field, which has AWOS. I picked up the unicom microphone and answered because the line man was fueling my plane. I then walked over to the FSS and returned to pay for fuel. When I got into the plane, I got on CTAF and asked the apache to identify his position. No response. I announced my intent to take off on runway 24. No response. As I retracted my gear on climb out, I saw the apache land beneath me on runway 16. No evasive action required, but if he had done a go around, or if I had aborted the takeoff, we would have had a problem. Contributing factors: lack of vigilance and over reliance by me on CTAF.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: 2 PIPER ACFT EXPERIENCE AN NMAC AT A NON TWR ARPT, ONE LNDG, THE OTHER DEP TFC.

Narrative: THE APACHE WAS IN THE PATTERN WHEN I WAS ON THE GND GETTING FUEL. I HEARD HIM ASK UNICOM FOR WX CONDITIONS, WHICH PROBABLY MEANS HE WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE FIELD, WHICH HAS AWOS. I PICKED UP THE UNICOM MIKE AND ANSWERED BECAUSE THE LINE MAN WAS FUELING MY PLANE. I THEN WALKED OVER TO THE FSS AND RETURNED TO PAY FOR FUEL. WHEN I GOT INTO THE PLANE, I GOT ON CTAF AND ASKED THE APACHE TO IDENT HIS POS. NO RESPONSE. I ANNOUNCED MY INTENT TO TAKE OFF ON RWY 24. NO RESPONSE. AS I RETRACTED MY GEAR ON CLBOUT, I SAW THE APACHE LAND BENEATH ME ON RWY 16. NO EVASIVE ACTION REQUIRED, BUT IF HE HAD DONE A GAR, OR IF I HAD ABORTED THE TKOF, WE WOULD HAVE HAD A PROB. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: LACK OF VIGILANCE AND OVER RELIANCE BY ME ON CTAF.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.