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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 397940 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199803 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ukw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| ASRS Report | 397940 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 397941 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While flying UKW3 approach, ZFW gave a heading to intercept dfw 304 degree radial and descend to cross bambe at 11000 ft. As PF, missed crossing altitude because I thought I was still reading DME off of ukw. Asked center for altitude relief and there was a frequency change and some confusion as to whether relief was granted. The approach controller said there was not a problem. Supplemental information from acn 397941: while flying UKW3 approach, ZFW gave a heading to intercept dfw 304 degree radial and descend to cross bambe at 11000 ft. As PNF I was giving a PA and PF missed crossing altitude because he thought he was still reading DME off of ukw. Asked center for altitude relief and there was a frequency change and some confusion as to whether relief was granted. The approach controller said there was not a problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MD80 FLC GOT OFF COURSE WHEN THEY NAVED OFF OF THE WRONG VOR.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING UKW3 APCH, ZFW GAVE A HEADING TO INTERCEPT DFW 304 DEG RADIAL AND DSND TO CROSS BAMBE AT 11000 FT. AS PF, MISSED XING ALT BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS STILL READING DME OFF OF UKW. ASKED CTR FOR ALT RELIEF AND THERE WAS A FREQ CHANGE AND SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHETHER RELIEF WAS GRANTED. THE APCH CTLR SAID THERE WAS NOT A PROB. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 397941: WHILE FLYING UKW3 APCH, ZFW GAVE A HEADING TO INTERCEPT DFW 304 DEG RADIAL AND DSND TO CROSS BAMBE AT 11000 FT. AS PNF I WAS GIVING A PA AND PF MISSED XING ALT BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS STILL READING DME OFF OF UKW. ASKED CTR FOR ALT RELIEF AND THERE WAS A FREQ CHANGE AND SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHETHER RELIEF WAS GRANTED. THE APCH CTLR SAID THERE WAS NOT A PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.