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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 395939 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199803 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : eno |
| State Reference | DE |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 15500 msl bound upper : 19000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zny |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 395939 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 395940 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Location: 15 mi northeast of eno VOR. During our arrival to ewr via the RBV1, the controller gave us a descent to be at 15000 ft, 15 mi northeast of eno. I read back the clearance as 15 mi and I confirmed 15 mi northeast of eno. Later, as we were leveling at 15000 ft, the controller asked what altitude we were at. I responded 15500 ft for 15000 ft. He informed us that we should be at 19000 ft. Both the captain and I were confused and concerned that we both misunderstood the clearance. The controller said that there must have been some confusion about the clearance. I apologized for any misunderstanding on my part. The controller did not indicate any conflicts or any required action on our parts to resolve the issue. I assume that it was a mutual misunderstanding about the clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 ACFT ON ARR WAS CLRED TO WHAT FLC HEARD AS 15000 FT, BUT AT 15500 FT CTLR INTERVENED AND SAID THE CLRNC WAS TO FL190.
Narrative: LOCATION: 15 MI NE OF ENO VOR. DURING OUR ARR TO EWR VIA THE RBV1, THE CTLR GAVE US A DSCNT TO BE AT 15000 FT, 15 MI NE OF ENO. I READ BACK THE CLRNC AS 15 MI AND I CONFIRMED 15 MI NE OF ENO. LATER, AS WE WERE LEVELING AT 15000 FT, THE CTLR ASKED WHAT ALT WE WERE AT. I RESPONDED 15500 FT FOR 15000 FT. HE INFORMED US THAT WE SHOULD BE AT 19000 FT. BOTH THE CAPT AND I WERE CONFUSED AND CONCERNED THAT WE BOTH MISUNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC. THE CTLR SAID THAT THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE CLRNC. I APOLOGIZED FOR ANY MISUNDERSTANDING ON MY PART. THE CTLR DID NOT INDICATE ANY CONFLICTS OR ANY REQUIRED ACTION ON OUR PARTS TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE. I ASSUME THAT IT WAS A MUTUAL MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.