A military DC9 flight crew avoids a climbing maneuvering T34 at their altitude, right in front of them. Aircraft Y assumed to be from a local 'top gun' school.

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Attributes
ACN	394676
Time
Date	199802
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : dob airport : ncq airport : mge
State Reference	GA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 9800 msl bound upper : 9800
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : atl
Operator	other
Make Model Name	DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	other : unknown
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Mentor (T-34)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other
Person 1
Affiliation	government : military
Function	flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : military pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	394676
Person 2
Affiliation	government : military
Function	flight crew : first officer instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : military
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 500 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

During climb out to conduct high work for annual check ride. Student at controls, noticed T34B appear from beneath our aircraft and directly ahead. Student announced 'traffic' and conducted immediate left climbing turn to avoid collision. Notified ATC of near miss. Contacted ATC upon completion of flight. Supervisor advised us that traffic was in fact a T34B with a 'dog fighting' school. Aircraft was possibly performing acrobatics during near miss. Student did an excellent job of maintaining a VFR scan. Our aircraft are currently being modified to add a GPS/FMS and TCASII. No TCASII was installed in this aircraft. Heads up scan saved our lives! Closest miss I've had in 15+ yrs of flying.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A MIL DC9 FLC AVOIDS A CLBING MANEUVERING T34 AT THEIR ALT, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. ACFT Y ASSUMED TO BE FROM A LCL 'TOP GUN' SCHOOL.

Narrative: DURING CLBOUT TO CONDUCT HIGH WORK FOR ANNUAL CHK RIDE. STUDENT AT CTLS, NOTICED T34B APPEAR FROM BENEATH OUR ACFT AND DIRECTLY AHEAD. STUDENT ANNOUNCED 'TFC' AND CONDUCTED IMMEDIATE L CLBING TURN TO AVOID COLLISION. NOTIFIED ATC OF NEAR MISS. CONTACTED ATC UPON COMPLETION OF FLT. SUPVR ADVISED US THAT TFC WAS IN FACT A T34B WITH A 'DOG FIGHTING' SCHOOL. ACFT WAS POSSIBLY PERFORMING ACROBATICS DURING NEAR MISS. STUDENT DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF MAINTAINING A VFR SCAN. OUR ACFT ARE CURRENTLY BEING MODIFIED TO ADD A GPS/FMS AND TCASII. NO TCASII WAS INSTALLED IN THIS ACFT. HEADS UP SCAN SAVED OUR LIVES! CLOSEST MISS I'VE HAD IN 15+ YRS OF FLYING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.