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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 388820 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199712 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mem |
| State Reference | TN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mem artcc : zdc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar pilot : private pilot : instrument |
| Experience | controller radar : 17 flight time total : 1450 |
| ASRS Report | 388820 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 15600 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I was (arm) vectoring air carrier X toward the base leg, descending from 8000 ft to 3000 ft. At 4000 ft I saw that the spacing on another aircraft being worked by arf was going to be close so I left air carrier X wbound and told him about the traffic. I also informed him that he might go through the final. At which time I saw air carrier Y (arf) being vectored by arf controller. I asked arf to turn the aircraft. He informed me that air carrier Y was sebound and no factor. At the time I felt this was tight but not an operational error. 6 days later I called the facility and had to ask if I was decertified. At that time I was told I was decertified.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN 2 ACR ACFT ON VECTORS BY DIFFERENT CTLRS.
Narrative: I WAS (ARM) VECTORING ACR X TOWARD THE BASE LEG, DSNDING FROM 8000 FT TO 3000 FT. AT 4000 FT I SAW THAT THE SPACING ON ANOTHER ACFT BEING WORKED BY ARF WAS GOING TO BE CLOSE SO I LEFT ACR X WBOUND AND TOLD HIM ABOUT THE TFC. I ALSO INFORMED HIM THAT HE MIGHT GO THROUGH THE FINAL. AT WHICH TIME I SAW ACR Y (ARF) BEING VECTORED BY ARF CTLR. I ASKED ARF TO TURN THE ACFT. HE INFORMED ME THAT ACR Y WAS SEBOUND AND NO FACTOR. AT THE TIME I FELT THIS WAS TIGHT BUT NOT AN OPERROR. 6 DAYS LATER I CALLED THE FACILITY AND HAD TO ASK IF I WAS DECERTIFIED. AT THAT TIME I WAS TOLD I WAS DECERTIFIED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.