Student pilot in a PA28 aircraft inadvertently penetrated class B airspace. Apparently reporter misunderstood his instructor's briefing concerning where the class B was located and the misunderstanding was partially due to reporter's english language skills being he is an immigrant.

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Attributes
ACN	388160
Time
Date	199712
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : nkx
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3300 msl bound upper : 3300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : san
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : student
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 45 flight time type : 17
ASRS Report	388160
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : exited penetrated airspace
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

This occurrence was a series of unfortunate misunderstandings between myself and my instructor. I understood I could takeoff from brown's field on my own which was my mistake and my misunderstanding. Because of the close mexican border and the mountains, I turned too early on a north heading. When I called in to request clearance for class B airspace/flight following I had already unwittingly entered the airspace. After necessary course corrections, received by radio, I landed in hesperia, and tried to contact my instructor. The phone number I was given to call in was lost. The next morning I proceeded with my instructor. In the future, I will make sure I understand correctly. And I will work on my language skills. (I've only been in america for 2 yrs -- foreign immigrant.) I will also double check my course plan with my instructor.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: STUDENT PLT IN A PA28 ACFT INADVERTENTLY PENETRATED CLASS B AIRSPACE. APPARENTLY RPTR MISUNDERSTOOD HIS INSTRUCTOR'S BRIEFING CONCERNING WHERE THE CLASS B WAS LOCATED AND THE MISUNDERSTANDING WAS PARTIALLY DUE TO RPTR'S ENGLISH LANGUAGE SKILLS BEING HE IS AN IMMIGRANT.

Narrative: THIS OCCURRENCE WAS A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE MISUNDERSTANDINGS BTWN MYSELF AND MY INSTRUCTOR. I UNDERSTOOD I COULD TKOF FROM BROWN'S FIELD ON MY OWN WHICH WAS MY MISTAKE AND MY MISUNDERSTANDING. BECAUSE OF THE CLOSE MEXICAN BORDER AND THE MOUNTAINS, I TURNED TOO EARLY ON A N HEADING. WHEN I CALLED IN TO REQUEST CLRNC FOR CLASS B AIRSPACE/FLT FOLLOWING I HAD ALREADY UNWITTINGLY ENTERED THE AIRSPACE. AFTER NECESSARY COURSE CORRECTIONS, RECEIVED BY RADIO, I LANDED IN HESPERIA, AND TRIED TO CONTACT MY INSTRUCTOR. THE PHONE NUMBER I WAS GIVEN TO CALL IN WAS LOST. THE NEXT MORNING I PROCEEDED WITH MY INSTRUCTOR. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. AND I WILL WORK ON MY LANGUAGE SKILLS. (I'VE ONLY BEEN IN AMERICA FOR 2 YRS -- FOREIGN IMMIGRANT.) I WILL ALSO DOUBLE CHK MY COURSE PLAN WITH MY INSTRUCTOR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.