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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 388160 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199712 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : nkx |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3300 msl bound upper : 3300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : san |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 45 flight time type : 17 |
| ASRS Report | 388160 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This occurrence was a series of unfortunate misunderstandings between myself and my instructor. I understood I could takeoff from brown's field on my own which was my mistake and my misunderstanding. Because of the close mexican border and the mountains, I turned too early on a north heading. When I called in to request clearance for class B airspace/flight following I had already unwittingly entered the airspace. After necessary course corrections, received by radio, I landed in hesperia, and tried to contact my instructor. The phone number I was given to call in was lost. The next morning I proceeded with my instructor. In the future, I will make sure I understand correctly. And I will work on my language skills. (I've only been in america for 2 yrs -- foreign immigrant.) I will also double check my course plan with my instructor.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: STUDENT PLT IN A PA28 ACFT INADVERTENTLY PENETRATED CLASS B AIRSPACE. APPARENTLY RPTR MISUNDERSTOOD HIS INSTRUCTOR'S BRIEFING CONCERNING WHERE THE CLASS B WAS LOCATED AND THE MISUNDERSTANDING WAS PARTIALLY DUE TO RPTR'S ENGLISH LANGUAGE SKILLS BEING HE IS AN IMMIGRANT.
Narrative: THIS OCCURRENCE WAS A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE MISUNDERSTANDINGS BTWN MYSELF AND MY INSTRUCTOR. I UNDERSTOOD I COULD TKOF FROM BROWN'S FIELD ON MY OWN WHICH WAS MY MISTAKE AND MY MISUNDERSTANDING. BECAUSE OF THE CLOSE MEXICAN BORDER AND THE MOUNTAINS, I TURNED TOO EARLY ON A N HEADING. WHEN I CALLED IN TO REQUEST CLRNC FOR CLASS B AIRSPACE/FLT FOLLOWING I HAD ALREADY UNWITTINGLY ENTERED THE AIRSPACE. AFTER NECESSARY COURSE CORRECTIONS, RECEIVED BY RADIO, I LANDED IN HESPERIA, AND TRIED TO CONTACT MY INSTRUCTOR. THE PHONE NUMBER I WAS GIVEN TO CALL IN WAS LOST. THE NEXT MORNING I PROCEEDED WITH MY INSTRUCTOR. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. AND I WILL WORK ON MY LANGUAGE SKILLS. (I'VE ONLY BEEN IN AMERICA FOR 2 YRS -- FOREIGN IMMIGRANT.) I WILL ALSO DOUBLE CHK MY COURSE PLAN WITH MY INSTRUCTOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.