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DC10-10 aircraft in climb had TCASII on aircraft below, reporter so estimates 500 ft below. Departure controller tells flight crew to climb, but they are already at maximum climb.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 388141 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199712 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-10 10 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 7000 |
| ASRS Report | 388141 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Took off on runway 25R at lax, lax-ogg. Climbing to 13000 ft, just beyond coastline, we got a traffic alert on an aircraft approximately 500 ft beneath us. At that time socal departure said 'climb to 13000 ft.' we were climbing at +/-3000 FPM. It seems socal is crossing traffic with minimum of separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC10-10 ACFT IN CLB HAD TCASII ON ACFT BELOW, RPTR SO ESTIMATES 500 FT BELOW. DEP CTLR TELLS FLC TO CLB, BUT THEY ARE ALREADY AT MAX CLB.
Narrative: TOOK OFF ON RWY 25R AT LAX, LAX-OGG. CLBING TO 13000 FT, JUST BEYOND COASTLINE, WE GOT A TFC ALERT ON AN ACFT APPROX 500 FT BENEATH US. AT THAT TIME SOCAL DEP SAID 'CLB TO 13000 FT.' WE WERE CLBING AT +/-3000 FPM. IT SEEMS SOCAL IS XING TFC WITH MINIMUM OF SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.