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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 386920 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199711 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rbj airport : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute airway : j75 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 21500 flight time type : 13000 |
| ASRS Report | 386920 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had crossed solberg VOR on departure from ewr to go south on J75, the 237 degree radial for mia. It was a nice night and I was looking outside for traffic when center called and asked us to take up a 270 degree heading for traffic. As I looked down at the instruments I saw we were about 15 mi south but couldn't tell how close to the 237 degree radial -- it was off to the right. I thought oh boy, he is giving us this heading because we are off course and a little later that came out. How and why: well, all I could guess is that the copilot who was flying just crossed the VOR and turned to the outbound heading without seeing there was a strong wind out of the northwest and I hadn't picked up on it yet. I guess I should have been ready, he was brand new to the airline and had been a little weak at the start of the month, but I felt quite comfortable with him. I just shouldn't have left my guard down. I don't see new coplts that often, but I guess it is a sign of the times (great) and I'll have to be a little more observant!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF AN LGT FAILED TO STAY ON TRACK WHEN TURNING OUTBOUND FROM THE VOR ON A SID DEP RESULTING IN ATC INTERVENTION IN PROVIDING HDG TO RE-ESTABLISH ASSIGNED RPTING ACFT ON FLT PLAN ROUTING.
Narrative: WE HAD CROSSED SOLBERG VOR ON DEP FROM EWR TO GO S ON J75, THE 237 DEG RADIAL FOR MIA. IT WAS A NICE NIGHT AND I WAS LOOKING OUTSIDE FOR TFC WHEN CTR CALLED AND ASKED US TO TAKE UP A 270 DEG HDG FOR TFC. AS I LOOKED DOWN AT THE INSTS I SAW WE WERE ABOUT 15 MI S BUT COULDN'T TELL HOW CLOSE TO THE 237 DEG RADIAL -- IT WAS OFF TO THE R. I THOUGHT OH BOY, HE IS GIVING US THIS HDG BECAUSE WE ARE OFF COURSE AND A LITTLE LATER THAT CAME OUT. HOW AND WHY: WELL, ALL I COULD GUESS IS THAT THE COPLT WHO WAS FLYING JUST CROSSED THE VOR AND TURNED TO THE OUTBOUND HDG WITHOUT SEEING THERE WAS A STRONG WIND OUT OF THE NW AND I HADN'T PICKED UP ON IT YET. I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE BEEN READY, HE WAS BRAND NEW TO THE AIRLINE AND HAD BEEN A LITTLE WEAK AT THE START OF THE MONTH, BUT I FELT QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH HIM. I JUST SHOULDN'T HAVE LEFT MY GUARD DOWN. I DON'T SEE NEW COPLTS THAT OFTEN, BUT I GUESS IT IS A SIGN OF THE TIMES (GREAT) AND I'LL HAVE TO BE A LITTLE MORE OBSERVANT!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.