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An mdt descending in ZDC airspace misses his crossing restr by 4000 ft. Pilot was acting as instructor at the time.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 385190 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199711 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : fak |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 27000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc tower : las |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 8650 flight time type : 105 |
| ASRS Report | 385190 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Training flight from dab to iad. I was in left seat giving IOE to new aircraft check airman. At FL330 we were given a descent to cross 85 mi south fak at FL270. I programmed the FMS explaining to student the steps involved. We then got involved with other training issues and missed the restr by 3000-4000 ft. In the future I will dispense with training conversation until descent clrncs are clearly made.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MDT DSNDING IN ZDC AIRSPACE MISSES HIS XING RESTR BY 4000 FT. PLT WAS ACTING AS INSTRUCTOR AT THE TIME.
Narrative: TRAINING FLT FROM DAB TO IAD. I WAS IN L SEAT GIVING IOE TO NEW ACFT CHK AIRMAN. AT FL330 WE WERE GIVEN A DSCNT TO CROSS 85 MI S FAK AT FL270. I PROGRAMMED THE FMS EXPLAINING TO STUDENT THE STEPS INVOLVED. WE THEN GOT INVOLVED WITH OTHER TRAINING ISSUES AND MISSED THE RESTR BY 3000-4000 FT. IN THE FUTURE I WILL DISPENSE WITH TRAINING CONVERSATION UNTIL DSCNT CLRNCS ARE CLRLY MADE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.