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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 385119 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zzz |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 9700 flight time type : 4300 |
| ASRS Report | 385119 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | other other : other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Due to lack of communications between our training department and crew scheduling (far 121 air carrier), I was taken off my scheduled recurrent ground school during my 'grace month' to fly a trip. I, in my ignorance, believed that the director of crew scheduling and his deputies knew what they were doing and accepted the assignment. I was never reassigned ground school during the grace month and now the company is trying to repair the damage by 're-indexing' the 'due month,' etc. It is perhaps up to the lawyers to define the FARS as to what should be done, but I suspect I may have to take the whole initial training course, and in the mean time I would not be legal to fly. How to prevent this kind of potential violation in the future: give crew schedulers less power and more common sense.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CAPT IS REMOVED FROM RECURRENT TRAINING DURING 'GRACE MONTH' AND PUT ON DUTY. HE WAS NEVER REASSIGNED FOR RECURRENT.
Narrative: DUE TO LACK OF COMS BTWN OUR TRAINING DEPT AND CREW SCHEDULING (FAR 121 ACR), I WAS TAKEN OFF MY SCHEDULED RECURRENT GND SCHOOL DURING MY 'GRACE MONTH' TO FLY A TRIP. I, IN MY IGNORANCE, BELIEVED THAT THE DIRECTOR OF CREW SCHEDULING AND HIS DEPUTIES KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND ACCEPTED THE ASSIGNMENT. I WAS NEVER REASSIGNED GND SCHOOL DURING THE GRACE MONTH AND NOW THE COMPANY IS TRYING TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE BY 'RE-INDEXING' THE 'DUE MONTH,' ETC. IT IS PERHAPS UP TO THE LAWYERS TO DEFINE THE FARS AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE, BUT I SUSPECT I MAY HAVE TO TAKE THE WHOLE INITIAL TRAINING COURSE, AND IN THE MEAN TIME I WOULD NOT BE LEGAL TO FLY. HOW TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF POTENTIAL VIOLATION IN THE FUTURE: GIVE CREW SCHEDULERS LESS PWR AND MORE COMMON SENSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.