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Air carrier pilot report on crowded skies on the departure route from las in proximity of the class B airspace but above. Numerous encounters requiring course and altitude correction for traffic avoidance. Traffic reported as parachute drop aircraft in legal airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 376278 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199708 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : bld airport : las |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : las |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 376278 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Departure, 9000 ft. Las departure. Location: over bld VOR. This report contains no violation. Twice during jul/xx/97, while departing las, I had to alter course and stop a climb in order to avoid light aircraft while in the mead 1 departure corridor. The aircraft, according to the controller, were parachute jumping craft. The controller said they were out there all the time. While technically they had every right to be there, being above the TCA, it's not a very safe situation. The ceiling of the TCA at las is only 6900 ft afl, and doesn't seem to keep the small airplanes separated from the big ones. If a transponder failed in-flight on one of these light airplanes, they would become almost impossible to see and avoid.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PLT RPT ON CROWDED SKIES ON THE DEP RTE FROM LAS IN PROX OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE BUT ABOVE. NUMEROUS ENCOUNTERS REQUIRING COURSE AND ALT CORRECTION FOR TFC AVOIDANCE. TFC RPTED AS PARACHUTE DROP ACFT IN LEGAL AIRSPACE.
Narrative: DEP, 9000 FT. LAS DEP. LOCATION: OVER BLD VOR. THIS RPT CONTAINS NO VIOLATION. TWICE DURING JUL/XX/97, WHILE DEPARTING LAS, I HAD TO ALTER COURSE AND STOP A CLB IN ORDER TO AVOID LIGHT ACFT WHILE IN THE MEAD 1 DEP CORRIDOR. THE ACFT, ACCORDING TO THE CTLR, WERE PARACHUTE JUMPING CRAFT. THE CTLR SAID THEY WERE OUT THERE ALL THE TIME. WHILE TECHNICALLY THEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO BE THERE, BEING ABOVE THE TCA, IT'S NOT A VERY SAFE SIT. THE CEILING OF THE TCA AT LAS IS ONLY 6900 FT AFL, AND DOESN'T SEEM TO KEEP THE SMALL AIRPLANES SEPARATED FROM THE BIG ONES. IF A XPONDER FAILED INFLT ON ONE OF THESE LIGHT AIRPLANES, THEY WOULD BECOME ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE AND AVOID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.