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Flight crew of an large transport took evasive action climb in response to a TCASII RA and the fact that the tower TA had not been sighted.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 374830 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199707 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : msp |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | approach : visual departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Queen Air 65/70 (Seminole) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 374830 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Assigned runway heading (298 degrees) to 5000 ft. Took off normally. At approximately 1000 ft AGL, msp tower commanded 'fly heading 300 degrees' and simultaneously we got a TCASII RA, 'monitor vertical speed.' PF (captain/reporter) noted green climb arc between approximately 2500-4000 FPM and responded appropriately. First officer was unable to acquire target visually and informed tower flight was in TCASII RA maneuver. Msp tower then stated there was a queen air departed from runway 29R. Resolution was complete within approximately 10 seconds. First officer then acquired traffic at approximately 2:30 O'clock position and slightly low. Msp departure control told us upon our query that tower had been using visual separation, but we were never given a TA on takeoff clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LGT TOOK EVASIVE ACTION CLB IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA AND THE FACT THAT THE TWR TA HAD NOT BEEN SIGHTED.
Narrative: ASSIGNED RWY HDG (298 DEGS) TO 5000 FT. TOOK OFF NORMALLY. AT APPROX 1000 FT AGL, MSP TWR COMMANDED 'FLY HDG 300 DEGS' AND SIMULTANEOUSLY WE GOT A TCASII RA, 'MONITOR VERT SPD.' PF (CAPT/RPTR) NOTED GREEN CLB ARC BTWN APPROX 2500-4000 FPM AND RESPONDED APPROPRIATELY. FO WAS UNABLE TO ACQUIRE TARGET VISUALLY AND INFORMED TWR FLT WAS IN TCASII RA MANEUVER. MSP TWR THEN STATED THERE WAS A QUEEN AIR DEPARTED FROM RWY 29R. RESOLUTION WAS COMPLETE WITHIN APPROX 10 SECONDS. FO THEN ACQUIRED TFC AT APPROX 2:30 O'CLOCK POS AND SLIGHTLY LOW. MSP DEP CTL TOLD US UPON OUR QUERY THAT TWR HAD BEEN USING VISUAL SEPARATION, BUT WE WERE NEVER GIVEN A TA ON TKOF CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.