Flight crew of a gulfstream, G3, inadvertently blocked the entrance to the ramp on which they were departing by the first officer advising the tower that they were already on the taxiway that an incoming british airspace, HS25, hawker was attempting to enter the ramp off of. This resulted in the hawker moving out of the way to let the reporter out of the ramp when the reporter felt that it would have been easier for him to give away on the ramp area.

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Attributes
ACN	374630
Time
Date	199707
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mmu
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : jfk
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Gulfstream III
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	HS 125 Series 1-600
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	other other : other pilot : atp pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4400 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	374630
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 100
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We were on the FBO ramp ready for taxi and taxied up to taxiway M and we blocked the entrance as hawker was on taxiway M. My copilot evidently called us on taxiway M, when we could have made turn around to let the hawker on the ramp. The hawker instead gave way to us by instruction of ground control. The call shouldn't have been made by my copilot and we could have easily turned around on ramp to let the hawker in. By telling ground we were on taxiway M, it caused the need to have the hawker let us by first before he continued to the ramp.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF A GULFSTREAM, G3, INADVERTENTLY BLOCKED THE ENTRANCE TO THE RAMP ON WHICH THEY WERE DEPARTING BY THE FO ADVISING THE TWR THAT THEY WERE ALREADY ON THE TXWY THAT AN INCOMING BRITISH AIRSPACE, HS25, HAWKER WAS ATTEMPTING TO ENTER THE RAMP OFF OF. THIS RESULTED IN THE HAWKER MOVING OUT OF THE WAY TO LET THE RPTR OUT OF THE RAMP WHEN THE RPTR FELT THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER FOR HIM TO GIVE AWAY ON THE RAMP AREA.

Narrative: WE WERE ON THE FBO RAMP READY FOR TAXI AND TAXIED UP TO TXWY M AND WE BLOCKED THE ENTRANCE AS HAWKER WAS ON TXWY M. MY COPLT EVIDENTLY CALLED US ON TXWY M, WHEN WE COULD HAVE MADE TURN AROUND TO LET THE HAWKER ON THE RAMP. THE HAWKER INSTEAD GAVE WAY TO US BY INSTRUCTION OF GND CTL. THE CALL SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MADE BY MY COPLT AND WE COULD HAVE EASILY TURNED AROUND ON RAMP TO LET THE HAWKER IN. BY TELLING GND WE WERE ON TXWY M, IT CAUSED THE NEED TO HAVE THE HAWKER LET US BY FIRST BEFORE HE CONTINUED TO THE RAMP.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.