<< >> NASA ASRS Report 373762, June 1997

An air carrier DC8 freighter flight crew had a close encounter with another air carrier at approximately the same altitude during a return to mia.

Attributes
ACN	373762
Time
Date	199706
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : usr
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 28000
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : muha
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-8 60
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	373762
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 600 vertical : 100
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Error

Narrative:

Having turned back to return to mia international, both kingston center and havana radio coordinated to give us an option of FL260 or FL280, and a return via direct simones. Once established direct simones and FL280, I witnessed the close passing, opposite direction, 3 engine, red, white, blue transport aircraft streaking past. I feel TCASII would have been helpful.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR DC8 FREIGHTER FLC HAD A CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH ANOTHER ACR AT APPROX THE SAME ALT DURING A RETURN TO MIA.

Narrative: HAVING TURNED BACK TO RETURN TO MIA INTL, BOTH KINGSTON CTR AND HAVANA RADIO COORDINATED TO GIVE US AN OPTION OF FL260 OR FL280, AND A RETURN VIA DIRECT SIMONES. ONCE ESTABLISHED DIRECT SIMONES AND FL280, I WITNESSED THE CLOSE PASSING, OPPOSITE DIRECTION, 3 ENG, RED, WHITE, BLUE TRANSPORT ACFT STREAKING PAST. I FEEL TCASII WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.