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ARTCC controller, and the subsequent approach controller, queried the flight crew of a lear 25D, regarding their assigned descent altitude. The flight crew believed that they were at the correct altitude and were continued on without any delay or further comment.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 372660 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199706 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : elm |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tracon : elm tower : crg |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 372660 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Lear while in a descent was cleared to 8000 ft. When level at 8000 ft ZNY queried us as to what altitude we were cleared as did approach/tower into elmira. There appeared to be confusion or disagreement as to what altitude we were cleared while on the visual approach and descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC CTLR, AND THE SUBSEQUENT APCH CTLR, QUERIED THE FLC OF A LEAR 25D, REGARDING THEIR ASSIGNED DSCNT ALT. THE FLC BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE AT THE CORRECT ALT AND WERE CONTINUED ON WITHOUT ANY DELAY OR FURTHER COMMENT.
Narrative: LEAR WHILE IN A DSCNT WAS CLRED TO 8000 FT. WHEN LEVEL AT 8000 FT ZNY QUERIED US AS TO WHAT ALT WE WERE CLRED AS DID APCH/TWR INTO ELMIRA. THERE APPEARED TO BE CONFUSION OR DISAGREEMENT AS TO WHAT ALT WE WERE CLRED WHILE ON THE VISUAL APCH AND DSCNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.