<< >> NASA ASRS Report 368289, May 1997

B727 acknowledged cleared for visual approach runway 22. 12 mi out descending through 3000 ft, controller advised had MSAW monitor altitude. Controller said should be above 3000 ft till 10 mi out. Climbed to 3000 ft until 10 mi final, then completed the visual and landing.

Attributes
ACN	368289
Time
Date	199705
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lga
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 3000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	controller : developmental pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi
Experience	controller non radar : 2 flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 4000
ASRS Report	368289
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 9800 flight time type : 2500
ASRS Report	370050
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Arriving lga we were approximately 12-14 DME north of airport. Approach control cleared us for the visual approach to runway 22. We acknowledged clearance and began descending for landing. At approximately 2600 ft, approach stated 'low altitude alert, check your altitude.' we acknowledged the altitude, then approach control stated we should maintain 3000 ft until 10 DME from field. We did not understand this in our clearance only that we were cleared for the visual approach. We immediately climbed to 3000 ft until 10 DME then a normal descent and landing was made. Nothing further was said.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B727 ACKNOWLEDGED CLRED FOR VISUAL APCH RWY 22. 12 MI OUT DSNDING THROUGH 3000 FT, CTLR ADVISED HAD MSAW MONITOR ALT. CTLR SAID SHOULD BE ABOVE 3000 FT TILL 10 MI OUT. CLBED TO 3000 FT UNTIL 10 MI FINAL, THEN COMPLETED THE VISUAL AND LNDG.

Narrative: ARRIVING LGA WE WERE APPROX 12-14 DME N OF ARPT. APCH CTL CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 22. WE ACKNOWLEDGED CLRNC AND BEGAN DSNDING FOR LNDG. AT APPROX 2600 FT, APCH STATED 'LOW ALT ALERT, CHK YOUR ALT.' WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE ALT, THEN APCH CTL STATED WE SHOULD MAINTAIN 3000 FT UNTIL 10 DME FROM FIELD. WE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THIS IN OUR CLRNC ONLY THAT WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH. WE IMMEDIATELY CLBED TO 3000 FT UNTIL 10 DME THEN A NORMAL DSCNT AND LNDG WAS MADE. NOTHING FURTHER WAS SAID.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.