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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 367660 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199705 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 200 agl bound upper : 200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : msp tower : ffz |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : go around landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Jetstream Series Commuter Aircraft |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 367660 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Inside 2 mi on final approach, msp tower cleared a B727 for takeoff. We didn't think it was going to work. It didn't. On short final at 200 ft AGL, tower gave us a go around due to B727 still on takeoff roll. This caused passenger concern/anxiety, extra 1200 pounds fuel burn and a 13 min late arrival, as well as a potential conflict with a departing jetstream. ATC asked 3 or 4 times if we had the jetstream in sight. This was avoidable. Msp tower should not have cleared B727 for takeoff with us 'inside 2 mi' (tower controller's words). A low altitude go around is not something that we like to have to do.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC9 WITHIN 2 MI OF RWY, TWR CLRED B727 FOR TKOF. B727 DELAYED TKOF RESULTING IN THE DC9 MAKING A GAR. TWR POINTED OUT DEPARTING JETSTREAM TFC ON THE GAR BUT COULD NOT VISUALLY SPOT IT. SAW ON TCASII TA BUT NO EVASIVE ACTION REQUIRED.
Narrative: INSIDE 2 MI ON FINAL APCH, MSP TWR CLRED A B727 FOR TKOF. WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO WORK. IT DIDN'T. ON SHORT FINAL AT 200 FT AGL, TWR GAVE US A GAR DUE TO B727 STILL ON TKOF ROLL. THIS CAUSED PAX CONCERN/ANXIETY, EXTRA 1200 LBS FUEL BURN AND A 13 MIN LATE ARR, AS WELL AS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH A DEPARTING JETSTREAM. ATC ASKED 3 OR 4 TIMES IF WE HAD THE JETSTREAM IN SIGHT. THIS WAS AVOIDABLE. MSP TWR SHOULD NOT HAVE CLRED B727 FOR TKOF WITH US 'INSIDE 2 MI' (TWR CTLR'S WORDS). A LOW ALT GAR IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE TO HAVE TO DO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.