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M20E takeoff geu, desired to fly through luke AFB class D. Geu tower handed him off to luke departure control. Departure control handed him off to luke tower who did not want to talk to him. He went back to luke departure control. He doesn't think he entered the luke class D airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 367440 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199704 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : luf airport : geu |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : luf tower : geu tower : luf |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | M-20 E Super 21 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 25999 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 367440 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure other |
Narrative:
Departed geu, was told to contact luke departure (in VFR), which I did and they told me to contact local controller to pass through class D airspace. Called and they did not want to talk to me -- back to luke which at that time was busy. I don't believe that I entered D airspace according to my location over the ground by my chart, however there was confusion about the situation. This is the second time that I have come out of geu this yr and both times was handled different. There has to be a better way for transit pilot to go through this area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: M20E TKOF GEU, DESIRED TO FLY THROUGH LUKE AFB CLASS D. GEU TWR HANDED HIM OFF TO LUKE DEP CTL. DEP CTL HANDED HIM OFF TO LUKE TWR WHO DID NOT WANT TO TALK TO HIM. HE WENT BACK TO LUKE DEP CTL. HE DOESN'T THINK HE ENTERED THE LUKE CLASS D AIRSPACE.
Narrative: DEPARTED GEU, WAS TOLD TO CONTACT LUKE DEP (IN VFR), WHICH I DID AND THEY TOLD ME TO CONTACT LCL CTLR TO PASS THROUGH CLASS D AIRSPACE. CALLED AND THEY DID NOT WANT TO TALK TO ME -- BACK TO LUKE WHICH AT THAT TIME WAS BUSY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I ENTERED D AIRSPACE ACCORDING TO MY LOCATION OVER THE GND BY MY CHART, HOWEVER THERE WAS CONFUSION ABOUT THE SIT. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT I HAVE COME OUT OF GEU THIS YR AND BOTH TIMES WAS HANDLED DIFFERENT. THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY FOR TRANSIT PLT TO GO THROUGH THIS AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.