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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 365415 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199704 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bur |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bur tower : bur |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise other cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 375 |
| ASRS Report | 365415 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was giving a private pilot, with about 250 hours, a BFR. He hadn't flown in 2 yrs and only a few hours in the last 5 yrs. In doing his airwork, I held him to private pilot standards. He failed all of his maneuvers: his stall recoveries were sloppy, he dropped a wing on every stall, he couldn't hold his altitude during s-turns and steep turns, he didn't know what an emergency descent was. On top of this, he was cocky and had an attitude problem. He wouldn't use the checklist I provided him and he screwed up his radio calls. After the airwork, we left the van nuys/burbank practice area for a short cross country to lgb. This pilot couldn't hold his altitude and almost busted the lax special flight rules corridor. He also almost landed on the wrong runway at lgb. I had to take the airplane from him. After we returned to bur (as he missed radio calls, forgot to use a landing checklist and didn't flare), I told him what his mistakes were and that I couldn't sign him off. He got angry, yelled at me and after a heated discussion, stormed out of our pilot's club. He called the club owner 3 times in the next hour to complain about me and then he called to threaten me. He said he would report me to the FSDO if I didn't sign him off. He threatened he would tell them I had made him do spins in an unspinable airplane (piper warrior). This is for all the other CFI's out there -- beware of sloppy but arrogant pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR RPT REGARDING BFR IN WHICH PLT WAS INCOMPETENT AND WAS NOT GIVEN A SIGNOFF. INSTRUCTOR WAS THREATENED AND FLT SCHOOL HARASSED.
Narrative: I WAS GIVING A PVT PLT, WITH ABOUT 250 HRS, A BFR. HE HADN'T FLOWN IN 2 YRS AND ONLY A FEW HRS IN THE LAST 5 YRS. IN DOING HIS AIRWORK, I HELD HIM TO PVT PLT STANDARDS. HE FAILED ALL OF HIS MANEUVERS: HIS STALL RECOVERIES WERE SLOPPY, HE DROPPED A WING ON EVERY STALL, HE COULDN'T HOLD HIS ALT DURING S-TURNS AND STEEP TURNS, HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT AN EMER DSCNT WAS. ON TOP OF THIS, HE WAS COCKY AND HAD AN ATTITUDE PROB. HE WOULDN'T USE THE CHKLIST I PROVIDED HIM AND HE SCREWED UP HIS RADIO CALLS. AFTER THE AIRWORK, WE LEFT THE VAN NUYS/BURBANK PRACTICE AREA FOR A SHORT XCOUNTRY TO LGB. THIS PLT COULDN'T HOLD HIS ALT AND ALMOST BUSTED THE LAX SPECIAL FLT RULES CORRIDOR. HE ALSO ALMOST LANDED ON THE WRONG RWY AT LGB. I HAD TO TAKE THE AIRPLANE FROM HIM. AFTER WE RETURNED TO BUR (AS HE MISSED RADIO CALLS, FORGOT TO USE A LNDG CHKLIST AND DIDN'T FLARE), I TOLD HIM WHAT HIS MISTAKES WERE AND THAT I COULDN'T SIGN HIM OFF. HE GOT ANGRY, YELLED AT ME AND AFTER A HEATED DISCUSSION, STORMED OUT OF OUR PLT'S CLUB. HE CALLED THE CLUB OWNER 3 TIMES IN THE NEXT HR TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ME AND THEN HE CALLED TO THREATEN ME. HE SAID HE WOULD RPT ME TO THE FSDO IF I DIDN'T SIGN HIM OFF. HE THREATENED HE WOULD TELL THEM I HAD MADE HIM DO SPINS IN AN UNSPINABLE AIRPLANE (PIPER WARRIOR). THIS IS FOR ALL THE OTHER CFI'S OUT THERE -- BEWARE OF SLOPPY BUT ARROGANT PLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.