Narrative:

A DC9-31 was landing on runway 17R at okc. A military beechcraft twin jet trainer was practicing lndgs from overhead patterns. The MTR, vectored to a visual final, was lined up to follow the DC9 and cleared for an overhead approach. Tower said they would call break at mid field. The MTR was 1000 ft above the air carrier and passed over the DC9 at about 1 mi out when the DC9 was about 500 ft AGL on final. The MTR came into view as he was passing the DC9 on the overhead approach and became a distraction to the pilots as 1 pilot was a student captain performing IOE flight for FAA. Check airman was not happy with ATC nor was FAA aviation safety inspector. Called tower to complain and discover reason for this kind of handling and was informed that this was safe and practice was commonplace at okc. Questions of missed approach procedures were addressed to controller who advised simply that the practice is a safe procedure and would not entertain discussion of missed approachs which would be done without visual contact with other aircraft. This practice violates common sense safety practice and possibly violates military training policy. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter indicated he had intended to write a letter to facility manager but has not done so due other work associated activity. Reporter said he may investigate it further and intends to bring up the situation to military personnel when he attends an airshow meeting. Reporter doesn't recall any TCASII warnings as the TCASII was set for TA only for operations below 1200 ft. Reporter alleges the watch supervisor was controling traffic at the time of the incident.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RPTED SIT OF MTR PASSING OVER AN ACR DC9 ON APPROX 2 MI FINAL. WHILE CONDUCTING AN ATC APPROVED OVERHEAD APCH MANEUVER TO THE SAME RWY. THE ACR CHK AIRMAN AND THE FAA INSPECTOR WERE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SIT. ALLEGED FACILITY RESPONSE TO THE RPTR'S CALL TO THE TWR WAS THAT IS A SAFE PROC. RPTR EXPRESSED CONCERN FOR MISSED APCH WITH OVERHEAD TFC.

Narrative: A DC9-31 WAS LNDG ON RWY 17R AT OKC. A MIL BEECHCRAFT TWIN JET TRAINER WAS PRACTICING LNDGS FROM OVERHEAD PATTERNS. THE MTR, VECTORED TO A VISUAL FINAL, WAS LINED UP TO FOLLOW THE DC9 AND CLRED FOR AN OVERHEAD APCH. TWR SAID THEY WOULD CALL BREAK AT MID FIELD. THE MTR WAS 1000 FT ABOVE THE ACR AND PASSED OVER THE DC9 AT ABOUT 1 MI OUT WHEN THE DC9 WAS ABOUT 500 FT AGL ON FINAL. THE MTR CAME INTO VIEW AS HE WAS PASSING THE DC9 ON THE OVERHEAD APCH AND BECAME A DISTR TO THE PLTS AS 1 PLT WAS A STUDENT CAPT PERFORMING IOE FLT FOR FAA. CHK AIRMAN WAS NOT HAPPY WITH ATC NOR WAS FAA AVIATION SAFETY INSPECTOR. CALLED TWR TO COMPLAIN AND DISCOVER REASON FOR THIS KIND OF HANDLING AND WAS INFORMED THAT THIS WAS SAFE AND PRACTICE WAS COMMONPLACE AT OKC. QUESTIONS OF MISSED APCH PROCS WERE ADDRESSED TO CTLR WHO ADVISED SIMPLY THAT THE PRACTICE IS A SAFE PROC AND WOULD NOT ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OF MISSED APCHS WHICH WOULD BE DONE WITHOUT VISUAL CONTACT WITH OTHER ACFT. THIS PRACTICE VIOLATES COMMON SENSE SAFETY PRACTICE AND POSSIBLY VIOLATES MIL TRAINING POLICY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR INDICATED HE HAD INTENDED TO WRITE A LETTER TO FACILITY MGR BUT HAS NOT DONE SO DUE OTHER WORK ASSOCIATED ACTIVITY. RPTR SAID HE MAY INVESTIGATE IT FURTHER AND INTENDS TO BRING UP THE SIT TO MIL PERSONNEL WHEN HE ATTENDS AN AIRSHOW MEETING. RPTR DOESN'T RECALL ANY TCASII WARNINGS AS THE TCASII WAS SET FOR TA ONLY FOR OPS BELOW 1200 FT. RPTR ALLEGES THE WATCH SUPVR WAS CTLING TFC AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.