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Student pilot on a cross country flight inadvertently penetrated class C airspace thinking that the FAA FSS and approach control were one and the same. When the student contacted the FSS to open his flight plan, he thought that the approach facility would automatically know that he was coming and therefore be providing him with a clearance to his destination airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 364670 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : fnt |
| State Reference | MI |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : fnt |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : supervisor |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| ASRS Report | 364670 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My student was on a solo cross country on a leg from jxn to fnt. After departing he asked jxn tower permission to change frequency to call lansing to open a VFR flight plan. Jxn tower granted frequency change and said to call lansing. The student switched to lan FSS frequency and was under the impression that lan FSS and lan approach were related agencies. Unfortunately it wasn't until 3 mi from fnt field until he decided that he must have been forgotten to be handed off. At this point he contacted the controller at fnt. Fnt tower called me after the student had left his airspace and described the situation. He indicated that he would not issue a violation, but wanted to advise me of situation to prevent further conflicts. This was appreciated as when asked, the student indicated that the flight went 'pretty well.' after a thorough 'walk' through the trips communications, we discovered the misunderstanding of the radio trouble.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: STUDENT PLT ON A XCOUNTRY FLT INADVERTENTLY PENETRATED CLASS C AIRSPACE THINKING THAT THE FAA FSS AND APCH CTL WERE ONE AND THE SAME. WHEN THE STUDENT CONTACTED THE FSS TO OPEN HIS FLT PLAN, HE THOUGHT THAT THE APCH FACILITY WOULD AUTOMATICALLY KNOW THAT HE WAS COMING AND THEREFORE BE PROVIDING HIM WITH A CLRNC TO HIS DEST ARPT.
Narrative: MY STUDENT WAS ON A SOLO XCOUNTRY ON A LEG FROM JXN TO FNT. AFTER DEPARTING HE ASKED JXN TWR PERMISSION TO CHANGE FREQ TO CALL LANSING TO OPEN A VFR FLT PLAN. JXN TWR GRANTED FREQ CHANGE AND SAID TO CALL LANSING. THE STUDENT SWITCHED TO LAN FSS FREQ AND WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT LAN FSS AND LAN APCH WERE RELATED AGENCIES. UNFORTUNATELY IT WASN'T UNTIL 3 MI FROM FNT FIELD UNTIL HE DECIDED THAT HE MUST HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN TO BE HANDED OFF. AT THIS POINT HE CONTACTED THE CTLR AT FNT. FNT TWR CALLED ME AFTER THE STUDENT HAD LEFT HIS AIRSPACE AND DESCRIBED THE SIT. HE INDICATED THAT HE WOULD NOT ISSUE A VIOLATION, BUT WANTED TO ADVISE ME OF SIT TO PREVENT FURTHER CONFLICTS. THIS WAS APPRECIATED AS WHEN ASKED, THE STUDENT INDICATED THAT THE FLT WENT 'PRETTY WELL.' AFTER A THOROUGH 'WALK' THROUGH THE TRIPS COMS, WE DISCOVERED THE MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE RADIO TROUBLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.