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Flight crew of an large transport overshot climb altitude on a SID departure due to not following the specific transition contained in the SID. There was no traffic conflict and the controller re-cleared them to stay at the higher altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 364040 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lirf |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lirf |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 364040 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Getting clearance on ground didn't receive initial altitude. First officer asked controller about it. Was told as of SID. Captain and first officer looked on SID, couldn't find altitude first. Found only 2 fixes, 'cross at or above' with a 10000 ft altitude later. So they agreed on 10000 ft. On takeoff, we followed SID and climbing out of 9000 ft rome radar asked us of altitude. We said 9300 ft for 10000 ft. He asked us who cleared us to 10000 ft and we said per SID. He told us we were cleared via ostia 5B.bolserra 5A and the altitude on that SID transition is 5000 ft. We apologized and he said no problem and maintain 9000 ft for now. We later, in cruise, looked at the SID. First there are approximately 5 different departures in 4 different transitions on 1 sheet. Then the language barrier. Luckily, nothing happened this time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LGT OVERSHOT CLB ALT ON A SID DEP DUE TO NOT FOLLOWING THE SPECIFIC TRANSITION CONTAINED IN THE SID. THERE WAS NO TFC CONFLICT AND THE CTLR RE-CLRED THEM TO STAY AT THE HIGHER ALT.
Narrative: GETTING CLRNC ON GND DIDN'T RECEIVE INITIAL ALT. FO ASKED CTLR ABOUT IT. WAS TOLD AS OF SID. CAPT AND FO LOOKED ON SID, COULDN'T FIND ALT FIRST. FOUND ONLY 2 FIXES, 'CROSS AT OR ABOVE' WITH A 10000 FT ALT LATER. SO THEY AGREED ON 10000 FT. ON TKOF, WE FOLLOWED SID AND CLBING OUT OF 9000 FT ROME RADAR ASKED US OF ALT. WE SAID 9300 FT FOR 10000 FT. HE ASKED US WHO CLRED US TO 10000 FT AND WE SAID PER SID. HE TOLD US WE WERE CLRED VIA OSTIA 5B.BOLSERRA 5A AND THE ALT ON THAT SID TRANSITION IS 5000 FT. WE APOLOGIZED AND HE SAID NO PROB AND MAINTAIN 9000 FT FOR NOW. WE LATER, IN CRUISE, LOOKED AT THE SID. FIRST THERE ARE APPROX 5 DIFFERENT DEPS IN 4 DIFFERENT TRANSITIONS ON 1 SHEET. THEN THE LANGUAGE BARRIER. LUCKILY, NOTHING HAPPENED THIS TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.