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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 362408 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : fgt |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 8 flight time total : 725 flight time type : 310 |
| ASRS Report | 362408 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was cruising at 2500 ft on a 345 degree magnetic heading. The other aircraft (I think a piper cherokee type) was on a heading of approximately 100 degree magnetic. I looked toward my left wing and saw the piper at close range. I immediately broke right and I believe the other aircraft also broke right. It happened so quickly that I did not get a good estimate of our horizontal separation distance, but I would guess about 300 ft. If the other aircraft would have been at the proper hemispheric altitude there would have been no 'near miss.' I realize that the VFR altitudes are not required below 3000 ft AGL, but I think it is a good idea to fly these altitudes from the ground up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ERCOUPE CRUISING AT 2500 FT ON A 345 DEG HDG SAW PIPER CHEROKEE ON 100 DEG HDG AT 2500 FT. MADE IMMEDIATE R TURN AS DID THE PIPER. ESTIMATE MISS DISTANCE 300 FT.
Narrative: I WAS CRUISING AT 2500 FT ON A 345 DEG MAGNETIC HDG. THE OTHER ACFT (I THINK A PIPER CHEROKEE TYPE) WAS ON A HDG OF APPROX 100 DEG MAGNETIC. I LOOKED TOWARD MY L WING AND SAW THE PIPER AT CLOSE RANGE. I IMMEDIATELY BROKE R AND I BELIEVE THE OTHER ACFT ALSO BROKE R. IT HAPPENED SO QUICKLY THAT I DID NOT GET A GOOD ESTIMATE OF OUR HORIZ SEPARATION DISTANCE, BUT I WOULD GUESS ABOUT 300 FT. IF THE OTHER ACFT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE PROPER HEMISPHERIC ALT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO 'NEAR MISS.' I REALIZE THAT THE VFR ALTS ARE NOT REQUIRED BELOW 3000 FT AGL, BUT I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO FLY THESE ALTS FROM THE GND UP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.