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Flight crew of a DC10 during an oceanic flight failed to contact the ATC center at least 10 mins ahead prior to entering their airspace as plainly noted on the route chart used for the route of flight.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 361850 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199702 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : gtk |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : eug |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : as54 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 361850 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Scheduled dtw-sju and return sju-dtw. This crew unfamiliar with caribbean operations but rather with north atlantic and mid-pacific. Route to sju remained entirely in radar contact and radio contact mia and sju oceanic cta, and directed as to when to change VHF frequencys. Return flight filed (and flown) bqn A636 kobet UA636 pta A554 gtk. Flight was operated using INS (vors and adfs very unreliable). Sju center advised 'contact santo domingo on 124.3. Did so and got fl change from FL310 to FL350. Were informed 'radar contact.' just past sekar, no radioed instructions to contact ZMA, so we initiated. Were told, 'roger, contact mia on 132.3.' did so. ZMA said upon initial contact, 'you were supposed to contact us 10 mins ago. There's a NOTAM on this.' no NOTAM. But, check map la (H/left) 7 note F. Right at fir boundary and certainly not 10 mins ahead. Also, in radar and VHF radio contact entire way. This is a real 'gotcha.' very busy time, unfamiliarity, waypoint updates, in radio contact all the way, did cause this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A DC10 DURING AN OCEANIC FLT FAILED TO CONTACT THE ATC CTR AT LEAST 10 MINS AHEAD PRIOR TO ENTERING THEIR AIRSPACE AS PLAINLY NOTED ON THE RTE CHART USED FOR THE RTE OF FLT.
Narrative: SCHEDULED DTW-SJU AND RETURN SJU-DTW. THIS CREW UNFAMILIAR WITH CARIBBEAN OPS BUT RATHER WITH NORTH ATLANTIC AND MID-PACIFIC. RTE TO SJU REMAINED ENTIRELY IN RADAR CONTACT AND RADIO CONTACT MIA AND SJU OCEANIC CTA, AND DIRECTED AS TO WHEN TO CHANGE VHF FREQS. RETURN FLT FILED (AND FLOWN) BQN A636 KOBET UA636 PTA A554 GTK. FLT WAS OPERATED USING INS (VORS AND ADFS VERY UNRELIABLE). SJU CTR ADVISED 'CONTACT SANTO DOMINGO ON 124.3. DID SO AND GOT FL CHANGE FROM FL310 TO FL350. WERE INFORMED 'RADAR CONTACT.' JUST PAST SEKAR, NO RADIOED INSTRUCTIONS TO CONTACT ZMA, SO WE INITIATED. WERE TOLD, 'ROGER, CONTACT MIA ON 132.3.' DID SO. ZMA SAID UPON INITIAL CONTACT, 'YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CONTACT US 10 MINS AGO. THERE'S A NOTAM ON THIS.' NO NOTAM. BUT, CHK MAP LA (H/L) 7 NOTE F. RIGHT AT FIR BOUNDARY AND CERTAINLY NOT 10 MINS AHEAD. ALSO, IN RADAR AND VHF RADIO CONTACT ENTIRE WAY. THIS IS A REAL 'GOTCHA.' VERY BUSY TIME, UNFAMILIARITY, WAYPOINT UPDATES, IN RADIO CONTACT ALL THE WAY, DID CAUSE THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.