Reported situation in which an oceanic air carrier arrival was unable to descend and required the controller to interfacility coordination with 3 facilities. Reporter claims an unsafe situation exists when air carrier on this route are forced down early and must fly through a busy airway.

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Attributes
ACN	361634
Time
Date	199702
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : orl
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : mco
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	arrival other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Experience	controller radar : 14 controller supervisory : 2
ASRS Report	361634
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	other other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

A unsafe situation occurs when aircraft approach our airspace via AR6 (malet intersection). These aircraft are forced down early over the ocean and must fly through a busy airway (V3). In this instance the B767 was unable to descend and the controller working the position (east departure) needed to coordinate with ZJX, ZMA and cof approach twice. The controller simply does not have the luxury to spend that much time on a land line. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that normally AR6 arrs are descended to 4000 ft and handed off by the military approach facility. In this case, which reporter said is not uncommon, the air carrier was unable to get down and was handed off by the center at the higher altitude. Reporter indicated the subsequent interfacility coordination was affected since the aircraft would be high relative to the delegated airspace and to prevent a possible operational deviation. Reporter felt there was no operational deviation or pilot deviation involved. Reporter would like to see these arrs routed with the arrival traffic from ormond to avoid V3.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RPTED SIT IN WHICH AN OCEANIC ACR ARR WAS UNABLE TO DSND AND REQUIRED THE CTLR TO INTERFAC COORD WITH 3 FACILITIES. RPTR CLAIMS AN UNSAFE SIT EXISTS WHEN ACR ON THIS RTE ARE FORCED DOWN EARLY AND MUST FLY THROUGH A BUSY AIRWAY.

Narrative: A UNSAFE SIT OCCURS WHEN ACFT APCH OUR AIRSPACE VIA AR6 (MALET INTXN). THESE ACFT ARE FORCED DOWN EARLY OVER THE OCEAN AND MUST FLY THROUGH A BUSY AIRWAY (V3). IN THIS INSTANCE THE B767 WAS UNABLE TO DSND AND THE CTLR WORKING THE POS (E DEP) NEEDED TO COORDINATE WITH ZJX, ZMA AND COF APCH TWICE. THE CTLR SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE THE LUXURY TO SPEND THAT MUCH TIME ON A LAND LINE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT NORMALLY AR6 ARRS ARE DSNDED TO 4000 FT AND HANDED OFF BY THE MIL APCH FACILITY. IN THIS CASE, WHICH RPTR SAID IS NOT UNCOMMON, THE ACR WAS UNABLE TO GET DOWN AND WAS HANDED OFF BY THE CTR AT THE HIGHER ALT. RPTR INDICATED THE SUBSEQUENT INTERFAC COORD WAS AFFECTED SINCE THE ACFT WOULD BE HIGH RELATIVE TO THE DELEGATED AIRSPACE AND TO PREVENT A POSSIBLE OPDEV. RPTR FELT THERE WAS NO OPDEV OR PLTDEV INVOLVED. RPTR WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE ARRS ROUTED WITH THE ARR TFC FROM ORMOND TO AVOID V3.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.