Near midair collision between a pilot of a BE36 making practice approachs and holding patterns outsi...

Attributes
ACN	361280
Time
Date	199702
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : chd airport : ffz
State Reference	AZ
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1820 msl bound upper : 3500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : chd
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Bonanza 36
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing : missed approach other
Route In Use	enroute airway : phx
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	other other : other pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 22 flight time total : 1983 flight time type : 296
ASRS Report	361280
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	other other : other pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 218 flight time total : 1006 flight time type : 7
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We were advised by tower controller of the chandler municipal airport tower that another aircraft (C172RG) had taken evasive action to avoid a bonanza he believed might be my aircraft. Tower called my home about XA00 pm on the day of the incident. He called again the next morning about XB00 am and described the incident mentioned above. Our flight departed falcon field sebound about XC30 am. We called phoenix approach requesting multiple holds at the willie VOR. We then requested to go direct to chandler NDB to perform multiple holds there after which we requested to commence an NDB runway 4R approach. The controller requested that we 'maintain 3500 ft or above to remain clear of chandler's airspace.' we were cleared for lower altitude after we cleared chandler's airspace. The controller requested us to report procedure turn outbound. We reported outbound from the holding pattern and then reported inbound from the procedure turn. Approach told us to contact chandler tower. Our contact with the tower was outside of their traffic area at 2800 ft. Chandler tower requested us to report 2 mi out and asked how the approach was to terminate. We said we were going missed as published. We reported 2 mi out stating we were going missed. We were above 1820 ft. We climbed to 3000 ft contacted phoenix approach in the hold. Approach told us to maintain 3500 ft or below. After a number of holding patterns we requested another approach. Contacted approach and said we were departing for falcon field. We were requested to squawk 1200. We flew north to falcon. At no time did we sight any aircraft that was close to us, nor did the tower ask us to turn to avoid other traffic.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NMAC BTWN A PLT OF A BE36 MAKING PRACTICE APCHS AND HOLDING PATTERNS OUTSIDE OF CLASS D AIRSPACE, AND A C172RG. RPTING PLT OF THE BE36 DID NOT OBSERVE ANY CONFLICTING ACFT, NOR WERE ADVISED OF ANY BY EITHER THE TWR OR APCH CTL.

Narrative: WE WERE ADVISED BY TWR CTLR OF THE CHANDLER MUNICIPAL ARPT TWR THAT ANOTHER ACFT (C172RG) HAD TAKEN EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID A BONANZA HE BELIEVED MIGHT BE MY ACFT. TWR CALLED MY HOME ABOUT XA00 PM ON THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT. HE CALLED AGAIN THE NEXT MORNING ABOUT XB00 AM AND DESCRIBED THE INCIDENT MENTIONED ABOVE. OUR FLT DEPARTED FALCON FIELD SEBOUND ABOUT XC30 AM. WE CALLED PHOENIX APCH REQUESTING MULTIPLE HOLDS AT THE WILLIE VOR. WE THEN REQUESTED TO GO DIRECT TO CHANDLER NDB TO PERFORM MULTIPLE HOLDS THERE AFTER WHICH WE REQUESTED TO COMMENCE AN NDB RWY 4R APCH. THE CTLR REQUESTED THAT WE 'MAINTAIN 3500 FT OR ABOVE TO REMAIN CLR OF CHANDLER'S AIRSPACE.' WE WERE CLRED FOR LOWER ALT AFTER WE CLRED CHANDLER'S AIRSPACE. THE CTLR REQUESTED US TO RPT PROC TURN OUTBOUND. WE RPTED OUTBOUND FROM THE HOLDING PATTERN AND THEN RPTED INBOUND FROM THE PROC TURN. APCH TOLD US TO CONTACT CHANDLER TWR. OUR CONTACT WITH THE TWR WAS OUTSIDE OF THEIR TFC AREA AT 2800 FT. CHANDLER TWR REQUESTED US TO RPT 2 MI OUT AND ASKED HOW THE APCH WAS TO TERMINATE. WE SAID WE WERE GOING MISSED AS PUBLISHED. WE RPTED 2 MI OUT STATING WE WERE GOING MISSED. WE WERE ABOVE 1820 FT. WE CLBED TO 3000 FT CONTACTED PHOENIX APCH IN THE HOLD. APCH TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 3500 FT OR BELOW. AFTER A NUMBER OF HOLDING PATTERNS WE REQUESTED ANOTHER APCH. CONTACTED APCH AND SAID WE WERE DEPARTING FOR FALCON FIELD. WE WERE REQUESTED TO SQUAWK 1200. WE FLEW N TO FALCON. AT NO TIME DID WE SIGHT ANY ACFT THAT WAS CLOSE TO US, NOR DID THE TWR ASK US TO TURN TO AVOID OTHER TFC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Near midair collision between a pilot of a BE36 making practice approachs and holding patterns outside of class D airspace, and a C172RG. Reporting pilot of the BE36 did not observe any conflicting aircraft, nor were advised of any by either the tower or approach control.