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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 360968 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199702 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rbv airport : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zny |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 350 |
| ASRS Report | 360968 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to cross holey intersection at 11000 ft into ewr. My captain who was flying missed it by 2000 ft. Before this happened I tried to get the attention of my captain but he was using the PA. I wanted to notify center that we would be unable to do so. Knowing my captain, if I did that without his permission, he would have scolded me. I feel that after this event (even though we had no TCASII targets) I much rather be written up and yelled at instead of putting the lives of the passenger in potential danger. (Not to mention a violation.)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF A B727 UNDERSHOT DSCNT ALT DUE TO THE CAPT'S COMPLACENCY.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS HOLEY INTXN AT 11000 FT INTO EWR. MY CAPT WHO WAS FLYING MISSED IT BY 2000 FT. BEFORE THIS HAPPENED I TRIED TO GET THE ATTN OF MY CAPT BUT HE WAS USING THE PA. I WANTED TO NOTIFY CTR THAT WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO DO SO. KNOWING MY CAPT, IF I DID THAT WITHOUT HIS PERMISSION, HE WOULD HAVE SCOLDED ME. I FEEL THAT AFTER THIS EVENT (EVEN THOUGH WE HAD NO TCASII TARGETS) I MUCH RATHER BE WRITTEN UP AND YELLED AT INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE LIVES OF THE PAX IN POTENTIAL DANGER. (NOT TO MENTION A VIOLATION.)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.